The frame doesn't fit pass-around game
#1851
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Hi All, I stumbled across a nice condition 1983 Trek 520 in Gunmetal Blue yesterday. As much as I would like to ride this frame it is just a little too large for me (25.5"). I would be interested in a swap for something a few inches shorter, something in the neighborhood of 22"-23" seems to work for me. Doesn't have to be the exact same bike, just something of similar quality/weight.
Would also consider trade for some cranks/aluminum wheels I can use for my Motobecane. I can post pictures later when I get a chance but thought I would post in case someone is looking for something like this, a really nice riding and lightweight touring frame constructed from Reynolds 501 with manganese alloy fork and stays.
Would also consider trade for some cranks/aluminum wheels I can use for my Motobecane. I can post pictures later when I get a chance but thought I would post in case someone is looking for something like this, a really nice riding and lightweight touring frame constructed from Reynolds 501 with manganese alloy fork and stays.
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52.5cm 73 colnago super pantografata frameset





Hello I have a 73 colnago pantografata frameset with the chrome cast head lugs. I love this bike but unfortunately it’s too small for me. It’s 52.5cm. If anyone out there has a 70-73 colnago super between 56-58cm with original paint I’d like to find someone to trade with. Not looking to sell this. If I can’t find a trade I’ll build up for son. Would be open to trade for cinelli supercorsa, masi gran criterium but really would like a super same era in my size. Thx
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Trek 520
Hi All, I stumbled across a nice condition 1983 Trek 520 in Gunmetal Blue yesterday. As much as I would like to ride this frame it is just a little too large for me (25.5"). I would be interested in a swap for something a few inches shorter, something in the neighborhood of 22"-23" seems to work for me. Doesn't have to be the exact same bike, just something of similar quality/weight.
Would also consider trade for some cranks/aluminum wheels I can use for my Motobecane. I can post pictures later when I get a chance but thought I would post in case someone is looking for something like this, a really nice riding and lightweight touring frame constructed from Reynolds 501 with manganese alloy fork and stays.
Would also consider trade for some cranks/aluminum wheels I can use for my Motobecane. I can post pictures later when I get a chance but thought I would post in case someone is looking for something like this, a really nice riding and lightweight touring frame constructed from Reynolds 501 with manganese alloy fork and stays.
Are you looking for a '90s wheelset or period correct for your Moto. i would like to see a few pics of the 520
Thanks
Ruben in So Cal
#1854
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I did disassemble the pedals, completely cleaned the internals, and repacked the grease in all of the bearings as they were really gummy. My original plan was to give it a deep clean and polish, then service the hubs and bottom bracket. One nice feature of this bike is the original owner upgraded it to barcons (lock nuts both still present!).
The more I think about it I would either rather frame swap and use these components or just exchange bikes. This might be best as I feel like it would be a shame to break this up as it appears to be original and untampered with. After riding this a bit my old Moto (74—75-ish Mirage) just can't compete with this except in the appropriate size department.






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Hi Ruben, here are some pics, I haven't had much time to do a lot to it yet. I cleaned up the front wheel and tire as it needed a tube anyway, the back wheel is still filthy but should clean up great. The paint is in really nice shape and the tube sticker is still pretty nice as well.
I did disassemble the pedals, completely cleaned the internals, and repacked the grease in all of the bearings as they were really gummy. My original plan was to give it a deep clean and polish, then service the hubs and bottom bracket. One nice feature of this bike is the original owner upgraded it to barcons (lock nuts both still present!).
The more I think about it I would either rather frame swap and use these components or just exchange bikes. This might be best as I feel like it would be a shame to break this up as it appears to be original and untampered with. After riding this a bit my old Moto (74—75-ish Mirage) just can't compete with this except in the appropriate size department.





I did disassemble the pedals, completely cleaned the internals, and repacked the grease in all of the bearings as they were really gummy. My original plan was to give it a deep clean and polish, then service the hubs and bottom bracket. One nice feature of this bike is the original owner upgraded it to barcons (lock nuts both still present!).
The more I think about it I would either rather frame swap and use these components or just exchange bikes. This might be best as I feel like it would be a shame to break this up as it appears to be original and untampered with. After riding this a bit my old Moto (74—75-ish Mirage) just can't compete with this except in the appropriate size department.






#1856
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Hi Ruben, don't rule it out, I will see what pans out, someone local had reached out prior to your post. I will circle back with you if I end up going the component route...thanks, Brian
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Motobecane Grand Record, Vitus 172 Double butted 23”


I was out testing brakes in the neighborhood and neighbor says “hey want another bike”
so..... I have a 23” (59cm) Motobecane Grand Record in my living room.
seat tube marked Vitus 172 double butted
Full chrome forks
Dropouts do not have fender lugs.
Downtube shifters are simplex and brazed
FD simplex
RD missing
Brakes and levers Weismann
No wheels.
Concord CA
two questions
1. How old is it?
2. Who is going to rebuild it? Too small for me.
Barry
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#1858
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Going going gone?
I know nothing about Motobecane and didn't want to toss out a frame without asking first.
Thanks
Barry
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I would say it is well worth saving and should not be disposed of. What size frame are you looking to swap for? Or are you just trying to see if someone wants it?
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I don't want anything for it. But can you are you able to come get it?
I live in Concord and work in SF
Barry
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Contact @sunburst here in the forums. He's local and is into the French bikes. He may be interested if it's his size. I'll shoot him an email too.
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I could definitely make that work for me. I've been halfway looking for one after restoring a Grand Sprint last year. I have a 62 Grand Touring frame that's just to big. I could pickup in SF. My son lives up there.
Bob
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Pictures are in the original post. Yes, they are upside down.
First “I’ll take it” in this thread, gets dibs
Barry
First “I’ll take it” in this thread, gets dibs
Barry
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Trade 25s for 23s
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I imagined this as a version of the "Box O'Crap" game with slightly different rules... but you can work it any way that works for you.
Post a frame you don't want. Hope someone posts one you do want. Two-way trades, three-way trades, fifteen-way trades, whatever you want. But all parties should agree to all stages of the trade before sending anything.
My submissions... deleted. I gave them to friends.
Edit: We now have a SPREADSHEET giving the dimensions of a frame that would fit, and going into some detail about the frame(s) we're hoping to be rid of. I didn't make the spreadsheet, we have Dashuaigeh to thank for that. SouthPawBoston tweaked it a little. So did I. Suggestions are welcome!
Post a frame you don't want. Hope someone posts one you do want. Two-way trades, three-way trades, fifteen-way trades, whatever you want. But all parties should agree to all stages of the trade before sending anything.
My submissions... deleted. I gave them to friends.
Edit: We now have a SPREADSHEET giving the dimensions of a frame that would fit, and going into some detail about the frame(s) we're hoping to be rid of. I didn't make the spreadsheet, we have Dashuaigeh to thank for that. SouthPawBoston tweaked it a little. So did I. Suggestions are welcome!
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@Road Fan, you can make those changes yourself. It's publicly editable.
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I'll do that, Tom!
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Yeah, it's a good idea. I haven't looked at that spreadsheet in years, but it looks like it has inherent problems. I don't know how much can be done, but it looks to me like it should automatically sort so the newest thing appears at the top. I doubt the stuff at the top of the list is relevant at all any more.
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Very nice frames and this one is in great shape. I have owned one for 27 years.
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Yeah, it's a good idea. I haven't looked at that spreadsheet in years, but it looks like it has inherent problems. I don't know how much can be done, but it looks to me like it should automatically sort so the newest thing appears at the top. I doubt the stuff at the top of the list is relevant at all any more.
For me, seat tube angle is an important part of essential bike fit - saddle height plus saddle setback, and saddle setback plus TT length gives me reach. STL plus saddle setback gives me an estimate of stack, in turn.
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I added a new entry to the spreadsheet. I have a frame which is too small for me (built up into a bike for my wife but she didn't like it). I'm looking for something roady-ish, 61-62cm seat tube, probably 57-59cm top tube, 126mm rear spacing preferred.
This frame is an oddball:
It will come with a seatpost (ASPI - Spanish) and headset (Tange Levin CD). For a few bux more, I can provide Campy french bottom bracket cups (not a complete bottom bracket though).
Its current status:
This frame is an oddball:
- French bottom bracket threads, British steerer threads.
- Campy 1060 semi-vertical dropouts.
- Maybe nickel plated fork and lugs.
- Second bridge for a Pletscher rack (rack will be included).
It will come with a seatpost (ASPI - Spanish) and headset (Tange Levin CD). For a few bux more, I can provide Campy french bottom bracket cups (not a complete bottom bracket though).
Its current status:

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