Considering a Fatbike
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Considering a Fatbike
I spend a lot of weekends throughout the year in Nag Head, NC, very near Jockey's Ridge State Park. I love taking morning hikes through the park especially in the off season. I also frequently take my road bike down there to ride the paved roads. I often think about getting a fat bike and riding up the dunes and then of course riding back down.
The sand can be very loose depending on how the weather has been. What would I need to consider when looking for a bike to do this? Wheel width? Bike weight? Gearing? I have seen people with fat bikes on the beach but I have never seen anyone up on the dune on one.Am I expecting too much from a fat bike?
This is the place: https://www.ncparks.gov/jockeys-ridge-state-park
The sand can be very loose depending on how the weather has been. What would I need to consider when looking for a bike to do this? Wheel width? Bike weight? Gearing? I have seen people with fat bikes on the beach but I have never seen anyone up on the dune on one.Am I expecting too much from a fat bike?
This is the place: https://www.ncparks.gov/jockeys-ridge-state-park
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Tire tread, rubber, gearing and rider skills still play a role. I'd recommend one that supports 26"/4.8" or 27.5"/4.5" tires for largest contact patch.
I never rode up dunes, and dines change constantly. So hard to predict if you could master them. But a good fattie with good tires at least gives you a fighting chance. You also want lower gearing. The lower the better.
I never rode up dunes, and dines change constantly. So hard to predict if you could master them. But a good fattie with good tires at least gives you a fighting chance. You also want lower gearing. The lower the better.
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I ride nothing but Florida panhandle beaches. I think the best tires for a 26" bike are the 4.8" Jumbo Jims. I got a hell of a deal on my 9.6 Farley and put on the 4.5" Barbegazis as soon as they came out. To me they roll better than the JJs especially whenever you get on packed sand. I normally run em at 8 to 10psi and definitely tubeless. My favorite park with the best dunes has been shut down since the hurricane and I can't wait for it to open back up!
You can't go wrong with a Farley. The 2019 Farley 5s come with 4.5" Gnarwhals but the 9.6s come with Barbegazis.
You can't go wrong with a Farley. The 2019 Farley 5s come with 4.5" Gnarwhals but the 9.6s come with Barbegazis.
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Thanks guys. I’ll let you know what I end up doing.
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Is it legal to ride on dunes? In NJ, the dunes are protected
I couldn't think of a better bike to have at the beach. Get lightweight tires with less knobs for the sand
I couldn't think of a better bike to have at the beach. Get lightweight tires with less knobs for the sand
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My bike shop just ordered me a Specialized Fatboy SE as they didn't have my size. I am really surprised at how light they are. They look like they would weigh a lot more. I am also surprised at the gearing as I'm used to road type bikes. I guess they aren't made to go anywhere fast but I'm sure that I can do some steep climbs with it. I should have it next Wednesday.
I don't know about the legalities. People hike, fly kites and even hang glide all over the dunes. I'll keep it low key and only in the mornings before the tourists invade for the day and see how long I get away with it before a park ranger stops me. If they kick me off the dunes there is always the beach. We have lots of beach.
I don't know about the legalities. People hike, fly kites and even hang glide all over the dunes. I'll keep it low key and only in the mornings before the tourists invade for the day and see how long I get away with it before a park ranger stops me. If they kick me off the dunes there is always the beach. We have lots of beach.
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Last weekend was my first go in the sand with the Fatboy. Man, I have a lot to learn about riding a fatbike and in particular, riding in the sand. Being used to a road bike, the wide stance kept throwing me off when i would take my feet off the pedals and try to put them back on. Moving on sand takes more effort than I anticipated.It will be a while before this old body gets the skill and the strength to climb 100 ft dunes.
I did put quite a few sand miles on the bike and I love it.I am teaching myself how to handle softer sand little by little. My nest outing will be Sunday morning when I get back down to the Outer Banks.
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@SHOFINE and others that ride sand.How do you mange the transition from riding paved road to riding sand and then back to paved road? Do you run the low pressures on the paved road? 6 to 8 psi seems to be the sweet spot for the sand but I'm concerned about the 1/2 mile of pavement to and from. Any thoughts? Ideas?
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where I am in MA, there are foot paths thru the dunes to the beaches. but of course the rest of the dunes & dune grass is off-limits. my regular MTB was fine on this trail, until I reached soft sand. that's where a fatbike would be good
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@SHOFINE and others that ride sand.How do you mange the transition from riding paved road to riding sand and then back to paved road? Do you run the low pressures on the paved road? 6 to 8 psi seems to be the sweet spot for the sand but I'm concerned about the 1/2 mile of pavement to and from. Any thoughts? Ideas?
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Last weekend was my first go in the sand with the Fatboy. Man, I have a lot to learn about riding a fatbike and in particular, riding in the sand. Being used to a road bike, the wide stance kept throwing me off when i would take my feet off the pedals and try to put them back on. Moving on sand takes more effort than I anticipated.It will be a while before this old body gets the skill and the strength to climb 100 ft dunes.
I did put quite a few sand miles on the bike and I love it.I am teaching myself how to handle softer sand little by little. My nest outing will be Sunday morning when I get back down to the Outer Banks.
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I'm digging all things Farley...Started with Salsa Mukluk years ago, then a Specialized Fatboy, Followed by a Salsa Beargrease(which I still have), then the Farley...got a killer deal on a 9.6, liked it so much upgraded to a 9.8(best of the bunch)! If you can't tell, I am addicted to Fat,lol! Anyone looking for a 2018 9.6(NJ area) hit me up...
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I spend a lot of weekends throughout the year in Nag Head, NC, very near Jockey's Ridge State Park. I love taking morning hikes through the park especially in the off season. I also frequently take my road bike down there to ride the paved roads. I often think about getting a fat bike and riding up the dunes and then of course riding back down.
The sand can be very loose depending on how the weather has been. What would I need to consider when looking for a bike to do this? Wheel width? Bike weight? Gearing? I have seen people with fat bikes on the beach but I have never seen anyone up on the dune on one.Am I expecting too much from a fat bike?
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The sand can be very loose depending on how the weather has been. What would I need to consider when looking for a bike to do this? Wheel width? Bike weight? Gearing? I have seen people with fat bikes on the beach but I have never seen anyone up on the dune on one.Am I expecting too much from a fat bike?
This is the place:
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I can't say that I have mastered the dunes of Jockey's Ridge. But, I am definitely starting to tame them.On the return side of my beach ride, I crossed over to Jockey's Ridge at Kitty Hawk Kites. The sand was very soft and i couldn't make it up the first dune. But with the momentum of the down hill and probably the fact that I stopped to take pictures (rested), I made it up the second (and taller) dune. From there I made it all the way to the parking lot at the Jockey's Ridge sound side beach with my feet never leaving the pedals. there were a couple of time that i thought i was going to not make it and is seemed like i wasn't even moving fast enough to stay balanced on the bike but I made through for the first time.
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I ride nothing but Florida panhandle beaches. I think the best tires for a 26" bike are the 4.8" Jumbo Jims. I got a hell of a deal on my 9.6 Farley and put on the 4.5" Barbegazis as soon as they came out. To me they roll better than the JJs especially whenever you get on packed sand. I normally run em at 8 to 10psi and definitely tubeless. My favorite park with the best dunes has been shut down since the hurricane and I can't wait for it to open back up!
You can't go wrong with a Farley. The 2019 Farley 5s come with 4.5" Gnarwhals but the 9.6s come with Barbegazis.
You can't go wrong with a Farley. The 2019 Farley 5s come with 4.5" Gnarwhals but the 9.6s come with Barbegazis.
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I have ridden several different fattys and I have to say Trek nailed it! My 2017 Farley 7 is awesome. Like it so much I am thinking about a 2020. The 7 is the only bike I ride in the woods now. The thing makes you turn 12 again!
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Fat Bikes all the way! Just one bike takes the cake. You can run with 26 wheels, 29 wheels, 27.5 wheels with and without studs any time of the year not just 3 seasons. The versatility of Fat Bikes for all types of riding and weather conditions for day trips, camping, racing, single track, lets you think outside the box for tomorrow's ride.
Fat bikes have wide tires that help for a riders balance, traction, comfort. Are you going to break a fat bike? Not a chance, ride the fat bike and forget about it.
Think outside the box for your next ride on a fat bike.
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Yes, go for it!
I live on the beach in Northern California and had the same question as you. The first bike I bought had 3.8" tires and it did not work at all in the sand. So I went to 4.8" tires. It was still tough but worked. Then one day I let almost all the air out, I was down at like 3 psi, and boom! Everything changed, I could float up and down the dunes with ease. I have a 1x12 Sram gearing, which has a very nice low granny gear. Super low tire pressure and a granny gear and you're good to go.
All the above is based on dry loose sand conditions, but if you're lucky enough to catch a ride when the sand is wet or was wet recently, you could pretty much ride a bmx bike out there and be fine. The sand changes dramatically when moist and it becomes a breeze. For those conditions I pump the tires up a fair bit more. Happy trails!
PS- Search "Sequoyah Faulk Fat Bike Dune Bombing" if you want to see some footage of me riding the dunes here...
All the above is based on dry loose sand conditions, but if you're lucky enough to catch a ride when the sand is wet or was wet recently, you could pretty much ride a bmx bike out there and be fine. The sand changes dramatically when moist and it becomes a breeze. For those conditions I pump the tires up a fair bit more. Happy trails!
PS- Search "Sequoyah Faulk Fat Bike Dune Bombing" if you want to see some footage of me riding the dunes here...