Troul 

I am replacing a damaged FSA Omega 50x34T BB386EVO crank using a Nylon cup Press Fit BB-PF30/6000 CZ & am interested in trying a different brand.
The 50x34T works, but the 34T is hardly ever used... the times it might have been used were on accident. 36T might see more use, not sure tho as the 50T seems to be the default choice & wouldn't want to lose it for a small ring change. Essentially as long as it wouldn't necessitate a der change, it's open for change.
With the replacement of the crank assembly, the BB will be changed. Not pigeon held to FSA, only to the frame hole.
Any recommendations for a complete package that will include the crankset, BB, spacers, washers, etc?

Updated Info:
BB Standard: 386EVO
Frame BB Shell ID: 46mm
Common Shell Width: 86mm
Essentially a PF30 with 86.5mm wide shell. 386EVO Bottom Brackets

Troul 

Unsure if I'd be able to adapt the SHIMANO 105 HOLLOWTECH II Road Crankset 2x11-speed set in?

Geepig

I need to go down such bearing route in the future, but I am not sure what type would be best.

I need to move on from 2-piece cotter pin cranks

Troul 

I tried going to a few LBS to zombie up some knowledge & toss them some business, but that just got to be a cat & mouse game. Between the "New Normal" hours & available times the expertise is around, I cannot catch a break. If I didn't have #work #life #morework it wouldn't be so much cumbersome.
Hopefully my thread can serve both us some use in helping identify some solid solutions.

So far, to keep things fitting as it should, anything that takes the place of my B3155 bottom bracket might need a sleeve if going Shimano. Not really sure if I would like to induce a possible creak.

trailflow1

Complete crank packages (crankset, BB, spacers, washers etc) for BB386 frames dont really exist. You would need to first choose your crank type and you then pick the correct BB386 bb from an aftermarket brand. Shimano for example do not make bb's for BB386 frames. But a Shimano crank will definitely fit with the correct bb or adapter.

You have plenty of options. You can fit any modern 24mm or 28.9, 30mm crankset available, except for older 1st generation BB30 cranks.

Fitting a Shimano Hollowtech crank, you could fit a BB386 to Shimano conversion bb unit.

or you could fit a normal BB386 bb and then use 30mm to 24mm adapter cups.

Troul 

Thanks.

Avoiding the adapter cups is important for the replacement crank & BB. I'll have to dig around to find the pair of parts that support the existing bb.

Troul 

Is there a triple ring crank that takes the BB-PF30? I'm interested in the SHIMANO TIAGRA 4703 crankset HOLLOWTECH II as it has the 50/39T, but it's a triple ring (50/39/30T) & would want to remove the 30T ring. I know it may increase the spindle width, but I would not mind that.

Would this Tiagra 4703 crankset use the BB-PF30 that the frame requires now?

Troul 

Why are there no options for a 50-36T or 50-39T?
I'd likely go with the Shimano FC-R7000 105 11spd Double Crankset if they had the prepackaged combo I'm after.

50-36T or 50-39T Shimano FC-R7000 105 11spd Double Crankset with the SM-BB72-41 SHIMANO ULTEGRA Press Fit Bottom Bracket 86.5 mm would seem to replace the FSA setup now as a direct swap.

trailflow1

I dont know of any triple 30mm cranksets for road that are specced with a longer BB386 spindle. Afaik they are non existant.

a triple Tiagra 4703 crankset is not really viable because your FD and shifters are for doubles only.

The Tiagra 4703 crankset would fit into the BB-PF30 with PF30 SHIM adapters. That is doable.

But removng the smallest inner ring doesn't turn the crank into a double that easily. The triple crank middle and outer chainrings will be too far outboard for your front derailleur. To do this, you will need a triple FD, and a triple left shifter. And you would still a have a dedundant click on the inner ring position.

my advice instead just buy a double crank. It'll be less cost overall. Even if the triple crank is dirt cheap. Give it a pass.

trailflow1

The SM-BB72-41 would not be compatible with your frame. That's a 41mm diameter bb. BB386 is 46mm.

The only similarities of the SM-BB72-41 and a BB386 bb is they are both 86.5mm wide.

trailflow1

Probably because the demand is low and it would create too much stock inventory. When the current options cover most people needs. You could customise and fit a 36t inner. The inner ring is not that expensive.

The shifting wont be as optimised because of the ramps on the big chainring but it will still shift. The 2 teeth isn't too much of a difference that it will cause any problem.

Troul 

To swing it out to grab the largest ring, it seemed plausible by adjusting the front der position using its H/L settings with some adjustments to the cable tension. Until I physically try it, it's just speculation.

Did the FSA brand make it's own unique diameter? Seems very difficult to find much interchangeability across other known name brands.


Press Fit BB-PF30/6000 CZ Nylon cup is what the frame takes.

That make sense. The other option I was entertaining is to swap the cassette to accommodate the change as it's much easier to do IME, but the cassette cost is not entry level pricing. I feel there's more risk changing the small crank ring dealing with press fit BB's.

The current need is to procure a new crank set & new bottom bracket assembly. That's unavoidable at this point.

trailflow1

I dont know what search terms you are using but any 46mm press fit bb (PF30, BB386EVO) will fit a 46mm shell. There are numerous bb brands that sell these pressfit bb's catering to be used with Shimano HT crank.

But FSA, have never marketed a bb either in press fit or threaded that is officially ''compatible with a Shimano crank'', because that's their competitor. FSA has their own version of 24mm cranks called MegaExo that competes with Shimano. If you are searching for ''FSA bb for Shimano'' that wont help you much. You need to use search terms like PF30 or BB386 BB (depending on your frame) for 24mm/Shimano etc.

Shimano do not make bb's for BB30,PF30,BB386 frames at all.

Shimano only make press fit bb's for 41mm shells (BB86, BB92). None of those will work.

The BB-PF30/6000 CZ bb only comes in 46mm. Your frame is either PF30 or BB386. You can measure your frame's shell width. PF30 is 68mm wide for road, and BB386 is 86.5mm wide for road. But this doesnt effect the compatability of a Shimano crank. It just means the BB386 bb has a longer middle protective sleeve.

Troul 

Found the following that the frame requires:
BB Standard: 386EVO
Frame BB Shell ID: 46mm
Common Shell Width: 86mm
Essentially a PF30 with 86.5mm wide shell. 386EVO Bottom Brackets

Troul 

The search for crank that I can net a 50x36T is the goal, but I'll consider a 50x34T that I can easily swap the inner ring out for the more tooth count ring if the price is right.

Troul 

the black SRAM Rival22 BB30 Alloy Double Crankset - 11 Speed 175mm x 34/50t looks like a ringer, but i see the Sram Force 22 BB30/PF30 Crankset - 11 Speed 175mm x 34/50t (Compact) also available. The compact is much more costly, & if I go that direction, the extra spending for the 36T ring swap is not happening, although I do not see an option for a "Rival" 36T ring.
The force only shows a BB30PF option. I'd rather not adapt. as most times it brings on a new noise.

Troul 

The decision is to go with the sram force 22 pf30 crankset 177.5mm 34/50t (compact) & pick up a 386EVO (PF30) BB. As it would be expected, another road block has popped up. Back Ordered.