Siu Blue Wind

This one is for anyone that has any general ss/fg question. What does general in terms of this mean? In this instance it means anything in regards to ss/fg. If you have experience with ss/fg and are seeking something very specific and finding that this isn't exactly the thread for you, then perhaps either the "Ask Scrod" or "Dear Carleton" threads will be more useful.

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Siu Blue Wind


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jared1988

What's the deal with twisted spokes? Good, bad, trendy, hipster? I've tried searching around google and all I can find is that there might be minimal strength loss. Seen one person rides it daily, even on 60+ mile rides


https://www.roadwarriorbicycles.com/c...aced-rims.html

Nagrom_

Probably impossible to keep true. It's also pretty stupid, but that doesn't mean much.

Dannihilator

Looks cool, but no technical advantages whatsoever over a traditional 2 or 3 cross pattern. It's pretty much just for looks.

Leukybear 

They're bad in my book, such wheels prove difficult to true and holding their true thereafter. It's also very common for most traditional bike shops that aren't really into fixed gear culture to refuse to service or build such a wheel. The structural integrity of such a wheel laced this pattern is questionable too, especially in the long run over time. They seem to be a more modern advent in the cycling world, having been born apparently in the fixie boom. It's better to stick to more traditional time proven patterns. Twisted spokes may either look nice or down right ugly to people, it's all a matter of tastes, to the eyes of the beholder nonetheless.

Nagrom_

If you're insistent on a standoutish lacing take a look at a crows feet pattern.

Looks different, but also is structurally sound.

jared1988

Thanks guys

Scrodzilla

I've turned down wheel builds for customers who wanted wacky twisted spokes.

tomatsu

Does anyone know what these handlebars are?

Dannihilator

Clarence Bar.

markaitch

i am about to snag a shamal wheelset...but it might not be such a great thing after all

it has a 9-speed campag cassette rear hub & of course i don't need road wheels - i want it for fixed

shamal track hubs are few & far between, phils custom drilled rear hubs are too damn high, & while it appears that miche does offer a 16h rear hub - i can't find any

are there any other suspects i should know about & be on the look-out for?

or...

is using 1/2 the holes on a 32h hub with a 16h rim my latest brilliant idea, or just a jackass recipe for disaster?

8bits

if you can wait 3 months Mack hubs are superb. Custom made, beautifull and cheap.

https://www.mackhubs.com/

EpicSchwinn

Bontrager makes a 16h track wheelset. Bontrager Race X Lite Aero Track

MNTC

This is a viable solution

Reeses

Phil wood high flange hubs or dura ace hubs?

Nagrom_

One is sealed, the other is not.

Make the choice based on that.

8bits

there's a version of a sealed dura ace hub can't remember the number.

I personally would never buy a PW. It's heavy, heard lots of people complain that it doesn't clamp tightly in the dropouts and are overpriced.

IthaDan 

A while ago folks were lacing up rear wheels by using a 32 hole and a 24 hole rim- 16, crossed, on the drive side and 8, radial, on the NDS. I have no idea what you'd do about a rim with offset spoke holes, but it has been done.

Leukybear 

Well those people need to learn:


Yes, they are philwood track washers or "domes".

solipsist716

"Sealed" but not sealed cartridge bearings like the PW has. All it really has according to Shimano's tech specs is a dust cap. You're referring to the 7710's, the low-flange model. The high-flange 7600 model is not sealed.

Reeses

I'm referring to the 7600. I already have Phil Woods but I'm wondering if I should trade for Dura Ace.

Dannihilator

If you have phil woods, I would just stick with them.

Scrodzilla

+1

solipsist716

What they said dude. +2

Also, I'm eating crow tonight. Finally have problems with my Surly hub.

hockeyteeth

They don't make those any longer, plus rims from that vintage frequently cracked, and they mostly used DT Swiss hubs, which had a serious tendency to break flanges. I wouldn't buy any Bontrager wheels with paired spoke designs or DT Swiss hubs, if I were you.