Lightweight Triple Touring Crankset
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Lightweight Triple Touring Crankset
I have a Sugnio made Ritchey Superlogic crankset with the hidden 5th hole behind the crank arm. They are very lightweight, excellent gearing spread (48/38/24T), and use a square taper interface. I'm trying to find an equally nice if not nicer crankset with lower gearing potential. Are there cranksets out there that fit these criteria?
Square taper
20T or 22T low gear
Easily replaceable chainrings
Lightweight
In my search I can't have all of the above. 94/56 chainrings aren't readily available, and many cranksets with a lower gear veer towards chunky MTB cranksets.
Square taper
20T or 22T low gear
Easily replaceable chainrings
Lightweight
In my search I can't have all of the above. 94/56 chainrings aren't readily available, and many cranksets with a lower gear veer towards chunky MTB cranksets.
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I have a Sugnio made Ritchey Superlogic crankset with the hidden 5th hole behind the crank arm. They are very lightweight, excellent gearing spread (48/38/24T), and use a square taper interface. I'm trying to find an equally nice if not nicer crankset with lower gearing potential. Are there cranksets out there that fit these criteria?
Square taper
20T or 22T low gear
Easily replaceable chainrings
Lightweight
In my search I can't have all of the above. 94/56 chainrings aren't readily available, and many cranksets with a lower gear veer towards chunky MTB cranksets.
Square taper
20T or 22T low gear
Easily replaceable chainrings
Lightweight
In my search I can't have all of the above. 94/56 chainrings aren't readily available, and many cranksets with a lower gear veer towards chunky MTB cranksets.
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Wheels Of Steel how about this XTR crankset - arguably the best ever ! FS XTR M-900 Shimano crankset Xlnt Cond ! - Bike Forums
titanium bolts included
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titanium bolts included
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You can find 22t compatible cranksets at Rivendell and other sites, but note that there are no “vintage” cranksets that I know of that go below 24. All of them will look “chunky” however.
Wondering why the OP wants that small of a chainring? I put s 44/26 compact double with a 32t big cog, which gives me a 3mph gear, great for long steep gravel climbs, and I’m a slow climber. Anything lower than that and I switch to my two foot gear, ad I can push my bike uphill not much slower than that.
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Wheels Of Steel how about this XTR crankset - arguably the best ever ! FS XTR M-900 Shimano crankset Xlnt Cond ! - Bike Forums
titanium bolts included
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That’s a 110/74 BCD crankset, only goes down to 24t, OP is looking for 20 or 22t.
You can find 22t compatible cranksets at Rivendell and other sites, but note that there are no “vintage” cranksets that I know of that go below 24. All of them will look “chunky” however.
Wondering why the OP wants that small of a chainring? I put s 44/26 compact double with a 32t big cog, which gives me a 3mph gear, great for long steep gravel climbs, and I’m a slow climber. Anything lower than that and I switch to my two foot gear, ad I can push my bike uphill not much slower than that.
You can find 22t compatible cranksets at Rivendell and other sites, but note that there are no “vintage” cranksets that I know of that go below 24. All of them will look “chunky” however.
Wondering why the OP wants that small of a chainring? I put s 44/26 compact double with a 32t big cog, which gives me a 3mph gear, great for long steep gravel climbs, and I’m a slow climber. Anything lower than that and I switch to my two foot gear, ad I can push my bike uphill not much slower than that.
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You could sell a kidney and go for the Rene Herse triple: https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...-triple-crank/
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You could sell a kidney and go for the Rene Herse triple: https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...-triple-crank/
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I was going to suggest the Rene Herse as well. I suspect it is the lightest, but I'm not sure. Also, how low can you get the gearing with a vintage or modern classic 5-pin design?
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Shimano STX-RC series cranks used 58bcd inner rings that go down to 20 teeth, can be found on the big auction site for around $65-70.
Race Face made 94/58 bcd triples too, and they are likely lighter than the Shimanos. But like 5X the cost.
Pretty much everything else that gets down to the 20 tooth mark is more modern 4 bolt mountain bike stuff. Might be lighter but has a higher ugly factor IMO.
Race Face made 94/58 bcd triples too, and they are likely lighter than the Shimanos. But like 5X the cost.
Pretty much everything else that gets down to the 20 tooth mark is more modern 4 bolt mountain bike stuff. Might be lighter but has a higher ugly factor IMO.
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You need a bolt circle diameter of 64 mm for a 20-tooth chainring. It's a long shot, but you could go to eBay and start an ongoing search (or whatever their terminology is) for a Suntour Microdrive crankset. The stock crankset came with an inner chainring of 20 teeth.
I see a NOS 20-tooth chainring listed on Amazon, not that that helps much. Amazon also lists 4-arm cranks that accept 22-tooth chainrings, apparently.
I see a NOS 20-tooth chainring listed on Amazon, not that that helps much. Amazon also lists 4-arm cranks that accept 22-tooth chainrings, apparently.
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Surly, Dimension and Origin8 all produce both 94 and 58bcd chainrings.
Your Ritchey crank was available in 94/58 and 110/74. I assume you’re running the 110/74, but I’ve had more pairs of the 94bcd pass through my hands than the 110, and they come up for sale fairly often.
Your Ritchey crank was available in 94/58 and 110/74. I assume you’re running the 110/74, but I’ve had more pairs of the 94bcd pass through my hands than the 110, and they come up for sale fairly often.
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Shimano STX-RC series cranks used 58bcd inner rings that go down to 20 teeth, can be found on the big auction site for around $65-70.
Race Face made 94/58 bcd triples too, and they are likely lighter than the Shimanos. But like 5X the cost.
Pretty much everything else that gets down to the 20 tooth mark is more modern 4 bolt mountain bike stuff. Might be lighter but has a higher ugly factor IMO.
Race Face made 94/58 bcd triples too, and they are likely lighter than the Shimanos. But like 5X the cost.
Pretty much everything else that gets down to the 20 tooth mark is more modern 4 bolt mountain bike stuff. Might be lighter but has a higher ugly factor IMO.
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Surly, Dimension and Origin8 all produce both 94 and 58bcd chainrings.
Your Ritchey crank was available in 94/58 and 110/74. I assume you’re running the 110/74, but I’ve had more pairs of the 94bcd pass through my hands than the 110, and they come up for sale fairly often.
Your Ritchey crank was available in 94/58 and 110/74. I assume you’re running the 110/74, but I’ve had more pairs of the 94bcd pass through my hands than the 110, and they come up for sale fairly often.
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This is a nice crank, 94/58 bcd:
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...1623e&Enum=115
Find one of those and you can get to 20 teeth. I have one sitting around that I plan on using for a project bike. It's a nice crank.
https://velobase.com/ViewComponent.a...1623e&Enum=115
Find one of those and you can get to 20 teeth. I have one sitting around that I plan on using for a project bike. It's a nice crank.
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Crank arms on this example looks nice but unfortunately has replacement outer & inner ring, middle(?).
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The reason XTR didn't go any lower than 24t, while XT and lower price points did? I'm pretty sure it's because powerful riders like the pros, whom XTR is aimed at, would break chains and/or wear them out too fast if they used such small chainrings.
Remember, the chain tension goes up as the chainring size goes down, inversely proportional. Better to get low gears with bigger rear sprockets, if chain durability/reliability are important to you.
In the early '80s my XC-racing MTB had a TA crank with an adapter I made to use freewheel cogs as the granny. I raced with an 18 on there, mostly for weight-weenie reasons — it let me use a small freewheel and a short-cage derailer. But after I broke chains in two races, I switched back to more normal gearing.
Yes chains can break from not being joined correctly, especially back then when skill with the rivet tool was a requirement. Not saying I was the best at riveting chains, but I'd been a bike mechanic for 10 years by then and was well aware of proper technique. And I worked on my bike a lot, so extreme wear or neglect can be dismissed as the cause of my chain breaking.
I hear modern chains are more durable, from better design and materials, but I'm strictly a C&V guy now, not interested in drivetrains with more than 6 or 7 cogs in back.
Remember, the chain tension goes up as the chainring size goes down, inversely proportional. Better to get low gears with bigger rear sprockets, if chain durability/reliability are important to you.
In the early '80s my XC-racing MTB had a TA crank with an adapter I made to use freewheel cogs as the granny. I raced with an 18 on there, mostly for weight-weenie reasons — it let me use a small freewheel and a short-cage derailer. But after I broke chains in two races, I switched back to more normal gearing.
Yes chains can break from not being joined correctly, especially back then when skill with the rivet tool was a requirement. Not saying I was the best at riveting chains, but I'd been a bike mechanic for 10 years by then and was well aware of proper technique. And I worked on my bike a lot, so extreme wear or neglect can be dismissed as the cause of my chain breaking.
I hear modern chains are more durable, from better design and materials, but I'm strictly a C&V guy now, not interested in drivetrains with more than 6 or 7 cogs in back.
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Middleburn does the RO1 road crank and spindle in square taper. They also do a compatible 94/58 3x spider that takes rings down to 20t.
All in silver, if you like.
Unfortunately the UK site [BETD] is out of stock of these items atm.
Recently purchased an RO2 X-Type in silver for a 2x 42/22. Crank looks real nice.
All in silver, if you like.
Unfortunately the UK site [BETD] is out of stock of these items atm.
Recently purchased an RO2 X-Type in silver for a 2x 42/22. Crank looks real nice.
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Bulgie above, nails it. Mountain bike applications back then~ definitely was hard on chains, rapid wear on small aluminum chainring, rear derailleurs tension spring sometimes could be fine tuned tweaked to help avoid dreaded chain suck. Long crank arms (175) were the thing as well. Consider the extra leverage equates to added stresses. The worst though is a chain snapping while standing and pedaling.
I was using Ritchey Logic cranks yet I forget whom actually made them, might've been Sugino. Little ally ring would quickly wear out and same for the chain. Wanted to maintain lightness yet avoided steel ring so then splurged for SRP supplied titanium rings.
These days we have more options and improved components to tackle these super ratio's, capacity and wrap. Lots of experimenting for the older stuff, hacks and adapt with new little parts. Drill and reclock for internal spring tension, adapt to longer aftermarket arms, various tooth count jockey pulleys, extended derailleur mounts etc..
But even if you got all the above dialed in for some vintage touring rig, think about the crank Q- factor plus torsional flexing of a weighted down steel frame. I've had some perfectly operating mountain goat climbing bikes on the workstand but definitely didn't act the same in real world conditions.
I was using Ritchey Logic cranks yet I forget whom actually made them, might've been Sugino. Little ally ring would quickly wear out and same for the chain. Wanted to maintain lightness yet avoided steel ring so then splurged for SRP supplied titanium rings.
These days we have more options and improved components to tackle these super ratio's, capacity and wrap. Lots of experimenting for the older stuff, hacks and adapt with new little parts. Drill and reclock for internal spring tension, adapt to longer aftermarket arms, various tooth count jockey pulleys, extended derailleur mounts etc..
But even if you got all the above dialed in for some vintage touring rig, think about the crank Q- factor plus torsional flexing of a weighted down steel frame. I've had some perfectly operating mountain goat climbing bikes on the workstand but definitely didn't act the same in real world conditions.
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Are there cranksets out there that fit these criteria?
Square taper
20T or 22T low gear
Easily replaceable chainrings
Lightweight
In my search I can't have all of the above. 94/56 chainrings aren't readily available, and many cranksets with a lower gear veer towards chunky MTB cranksets.
Square taper
20T or 22T low gear
Easily replaceable chainrings
Lightweight
In my search I can't have all of the above. 94/56 chainrings aren't readily available, and many cranksets with a lower gear veer towards chunky MTB cranksets.
Maybe, just maybe, Euro-Asia Imports has some NOS still around. They’re packrats and wholesale-only:
https:/www.euroasiaimports.com/productcart/pc/XC-Pro-MicroDrive-Crankset-1579p9975.htm
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A modern-ish alternative: Peter White lists TA Carmina cranks. Lots of crank lengths, lots of chainring spiders. His website might be a bit out-of-date:
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carmina.php
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carmina.php
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A modern-ish alternative: Peter White lists TA Carmina cranks. Lots of crank lengths, lots of chainring spiders. His website might be a bit out-of-date:
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carmina.php
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/carmina.php
Any brand/model of crank can break, from abuse or mega miles, powerful clydesdale or what-have-you. Maybe the one in the pic was a fluke, but that thin web looks like trouble to me.
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Suntour XC Pro MicroDrive was a 94/56:
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