lynskey cooper - gunnar roadie
11-12-09, 12:28 PM
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n8tron, if you're between sizes, then you can choose the smaller frame for a more aggressive fit or the larger one for a less aggressive fit. It kind of depends what your back will allow. The saddle to bar measurement will ultimately be dictated by the stem. The different frame sizes will dictate saddle to bar drop.
I feel like there are so many different options, both with just frame geo and then with stems, stem lengths, stem rise or flipped...amount of spacers... seatpost set back. !!!! enough to drive you crazy getting it right!
11-12-09, 01:15 PM
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Not a frame expert, but the smaller frame will also have a shorter headtube, and hence, lower bars if all else is equal. Overall fit then is a blend of lower, but closer bars. Whether or not that's more upright depends on the headtube heights. Then, too, effective top tube lengths are not always proportional to increases in frame size. (I.e., going from a 56 to a 58 frame doesn't always translate to a 2 cm longer eff top tube.)
I have a 56 cm Roubaix with a 190 (!) mm headtube. But I have the seat and bars jacked up sky-high to accommodate my long legs vs short torso. I'd like to think a 58 would look better, and would only need maybe a 20 mm shorter stem to make it work, but every 58 feels too stretched out - so much so that a 20 mm shorter stem doesn't seem like enough. There's obviously more going here than my casual observations would like to believe.
I have a 56 cm Roubaix with a 190 (!) mm headtube. But I have the seat and bars jacked up sky-high to accommodate my long legs vs short torso. I'd like to think a 58 would look better, and would only need maybe a 20 mm shorter stem to make it work, but every 58 feels too stretched out - so much so that a 20 mm shorter stem doesn't seem like enough. There's obviously more going here than my casual observations would like to believe.
11-12-09, 01:47 PM
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Not a frame expert, but the smaller frame will also have a shorter headtube, and hence, lower bars if all else is equal. Overall fit then is a blend of lower, but closer bars. Whether or not that's more upright depends on the headtube heights. Then, too, effective top tube lengths are not always proportional to increases in frame size. (I.e., going from a 56 to a 58 frame doesn't always translate to a 2 cm longer eff top tube.)
I have a 56 cm Roubaix with a 190 (!) mm headtube. But I have the seat and bars jacked up sky-high to accommodate my long legs vs short torso. I'd like to think a 58 would look better, and would only need maybe a 20 mm shorter stem to make it work, but every 58 feels too stretched out - so much so that a 20 mm shorter stem doesn't seem like enough. There's obviously more going here than my casual observations would like to believe.
I have a 56 cm Roubaix with a 190 (!) mm headtube. But I have the seat and bars jacked up sky-high to accommodate my long legs vs short torso. I'd like to think a 58 would look better, and would only need maybe a 20 mm shorter stem to make it work, but every 58 feels too stretched out - so much so that a 20 mm shorter stem doesn't seem like enough. There's obviously more going here than my casual observations would like to believe.
By the way, I think I have a similar fitting problem as you. I have long legs and always have to have the seatpost very high and usually feel stretched out even with shorter stems.
11-12-09, 02:49 PM
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By the way, I got a replacement Roadie under their crash replacement program and I asked them to leave off the "Roadie" decal, which they did, no problem. I also told them that "Roadie" was a dumb name for the bike and that they should bring back "Hot Dog". Maybe we need to start a petition.
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11-12-09, 03:32 PM
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I have had multiple Gunnars(Sport, Roadie and Rockhound). Solid bikes. Not sure why I sold them because I always compare by current ride with the Roadie. I found this recently on Schwinn which looks like a reasonable deal. This would set you back $1900 for a Gunnar.
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By the way, I got a replacement Roadie under their crash replacement program and I asked them to leave off the "Roadie" decal, which they did, no problem. I also told them that "Roadie" was a dumb name for the bike and that they should bring back "Hot Dog". Maybe we need to start a petition.
11-12-09, 03:50 PM
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Yup. On the larger frame, you'll run a shorter stem and on the smaller one you'll run a longer one. The saddle-to-bar dimension will remain about constant, but the saddle-to-bar drop will be greater with the smaller frame, which gives you the more aggressive position.
