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Old 07-15-17, 12:56 PM
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Ok... question...

I have the 12-25T cassette on the Ultegra wheel... I also have the 11-32T... If I want to setup the chain now. I should do that with the 11-32 cassette, right?? Or will I need two different chains when I switch between cassettes??

I have not decided what cassette will stay in each of the wheels...

I have a medium size rear derailleur if that makes any difference...

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Originally Posted by wachuko
Ok... question...

I have the 12-25T cassette on the Ultegra wheel... I also have the 11-32T... If I want to setup the chain now. I should do that with the 11-32 cassette, right?? Or will I need two different chains when I switch between cassettes??
Yes, set it up for the 32. It might still work acceptably if in the end you go with the 25.
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Old 07-15-17, 02:00 PM
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Maybe buy two chains using quick links and setup optimally for 25 and 32.

Originally Posted by wachuko
Ok... question...
Or will I need two different chains when I switch between cassettes??
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Or set up a chain for the shortest use--12x25--and keep the couple extra links you need with an extra set of quick links ... likely you can use the same length chain, but equally likely the bike will work better with a couple fewer links with the smaller cluster. So ... take a link and an extra quick-link and voila, you have two different chains in the space it takes to carry two extra links ... and can switch with no or minimal tools.
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Originally Posted by wachuko
Yeah, I am not really worried about the weight. Just found the weight differences interesting.

And great to read the feedback on the Michelin. But man were those more difficult to install than the Gatorskin!

I did find some Continental Ultra Sport II 700x25c in Black/Red... ordered a set as the price was good... since these were the only ones I found in 25 with black/red combo. So I have tires to last me until 2020

Have a great weekend.
Those tires loosen up after some miles are on them. I put a used one on my Ultegra wheels and it went really easily, but the first time I put one on a wheel it was tough.
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I will setup for 32 (I swapped the cassette yesterday). Inner tubes arrive today (with that extra set of Continental Ultra Sport II 700x25c in Black/Red tires).

I also got an extra set of Michelin Pro4 Endurance tires in 700x25c Black/Grey, but those are for the first build. Those came in when the Red/Black 23 came in. Sitting on the shelve for when needed.

No more updates until I get stem and handle bar in...


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Will you stop posting pictures, please?!

I have to fight to keep my wallet closed.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Will you stop posting pictures, please?!

I have to fight to keep my wallet closed.


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Set up the chain for the 11-32 and it will also work perfectly for the 12-25. It just may have a couple extra links (weight).

The tension on the 52-12 will be the exact same, regardless of which cassette you have installed, and will be slightly more than the tension on the 52-11.

Think about this for a moment and it will be obvious ;-)
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It's 3.5 inches longer if you use the big-big sizing method. I think it likely works, but I wouldn't guarantee perfectly.
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Originally Posted by nycphotography
...Think about this for a moment and it will be obvious ;-)
Yeah... I felt kind of stupid after asking the question...
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I'm so glad this isn't a disc brake frame. I can resist rim brakes. I think.
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Even if the bike was just resting on the clamp with no real clamping pressure on it... I was told not to do that.

Seat post adjusted to my needs and clamp relocated.



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Originally Posted by Masque
I'm so glad this isn't a disc brake frame. I can resist rim brakes. I think.
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I am looking at the Workswell WCB-R-081 (WCB-R-081(Disc brake)-workswellbikes is the disc model but they offer v-brakes and direct-mount brakes too) ....
Looks the same, comes from a reliable source, and ... comes with a disc-brake option.

I don't get a kick-back ... I wish I did.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Looks the same, comes from a reliable source, and ... comes with a disc-brake option.

I don't get a kick-back ... I wish I did.
So what are the benefits of disc brakes over rim brakes?

I am kidding! I am kidding!!!


Oh, and forgot to add that inner tubes arrived and I installed the front tire. Will install the chain tonight after work.

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Old 07-17-17, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wachuko
Crap. I asked them for no Pinarello branding anywhere..
LOL! There's so much wrong with that sentence I don't even know where to begin!


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On one hand I can appreciate the cost factors involved with Chinese components; on the other, it's been my experience that often knock-offs look the part but are woeful when it comes to quality and longevity.
I've told this story before, but fwiw:

Several years ago I was on a bike tour in Italy. One of the other cyclists had a no-name carbon frame, very nice looking but conspicuously un-branded. I asked him about it. He said:

"Chinese made. Really cheap. I can wreck this frame, buy a replacement, wreck that frame, buy another replacement, wreck that frame...and after about six more wrecks I still won't have paid as much as my son did for his new Cannondale frame!"

The ultimate irony: Later that week he wrecked his frame!!!

Derailleur hanger snapped, causing RD to swing around and saw completely through the right seat stay. Vacation over. Mercifully he wasn't hurt. But man, karma's a *****...
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Originally Posted by Bob Ross
LOL! There's so much wrong with that sentence I don't even know where to begin!


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Originally Posted by Bob Ross
Several years ago I was on a bike tour in Italy. One of the other cyclists had a no-name carbon frame, very nice looking but conspicuously un-branded. I asked him about it. He said:

"I can wreck this frame, buy a replacement, wreck that frame, buy another replacement, wreck that frame...and after about six more wrecks I still won't have paid as much as my son did for his new Cannondale frame!"

The ultimate irony: Later that week he wrecked his frame!!! .... karma's a *****...
No ... the fact that he swapped the components and was back on the road for a quarter of what his son paid is a pleasure.

Any frame can break, dude. Go to WeightWeenies and tell them they are all stupid for building lightweight Chinese CF ... they've been doing it for years longer than it has been (partially) accepted around here.

What's a b**** is that his son paid all that money and if He breaks it he has to pay it again.

So ... go paint some happy trees and smile.
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Derailleur hanger snapped, causing RD to swing around and saw completely through the right seat stay. Vacation over. Mercifully he wasn't hurt. But man, karma's a *****...
It is probable that you have cause and effect reversed.

Derailleur hangers _usually_ break because the RD got caught in the spokes and is ripped around breaking the hanger off. The hanger itself breaking while JRA is exceedingly rare. Not theoretically impossible. But very unlikely.

Also, even if accurate, the story is not a carbon frame failure, it's a machined aluminum part failure. Provenance of the frame, which did not break, is not relevant.

The REAL lesson learned here is very simple: Anyone who travel to ride should always have a spare hanger in their luggage. It's the one part that can break, can be replaced, and is frame specific and therefore almost impossible to find on demand.

In Colombia the mechanic wanted to straighten my hanger while prepping my bike. I made him call around and verify that a shop in the city had the hanger on hand before I let him start bending on mine. Just in case.
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Chain installed.



Now to wait for the rest or the parts to arrive... nothing else that I can install for now...
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Derailleur hangers _usually_ break because the RD got caught in the spokes and is ripped around breaking the hanger off. The hanger itself breaking while JRA is exceedingly rare. Not theoretically impossible. But very unlikely.
Ironically the only JRA rear derailleur hanger failure I've ever heard of was on my friend's high dollar Trek. Broke suddenly while shifting trashing the frame and rear wheel.
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I think I've figured out why the front derailleur isn't shifting properly ....
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
I think I've figured out why the front derailleur isn't shifting properly ....
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Lolz
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A few more parts arrived. Nothing that I can install on the bike for now...





Let's fill this up...




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