Hit the deck hard today...really hard.
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Hit the deck hard today...really hard.
I'd ridden about 45 miles and was less than 5 miles from home when it happened. I was cruising along a relatively busy road in a commercial district and caught a glipmse of brake lights and a blinker as the car to my left and just ahead of me decided to turn right into a KFC. I was going close to 30 at this point on a slight downhill and tried to swerve to the right to avoid his front bumper as he turned but the car still managed to clip my rear wheel as I went by. That impact sent my rear end out a bit, at which point my rear tire went flat, followed almost immediately by my front tire going flat. They both sounded like gunshots or backfires, but the real damage happened when my left ass cheek met the pavement. I took the full force of the impact on that cheek and sort of feel like I was fortunate not to have hit either my tailbone or my hipbone in the process; the meat of my glute absorbed everything.
The driver of the car got out and immediately called 911 as I laid face down in the road. I was literally unable to move for about five minutes while I collected myself and the pain was like nothing I've ever experienced. Finally I had to get up and move myself because the 95 degree heat and beaming sunlight made the road surface way too hot for me to stay there. I had the guy help me stand, picked my bike up, and walked over to a spot in the shade where I laid down to wait for the ambulance. A lady who saw what happened ran into KFC and got me a large Coke because I was feeling like I was going to faint. The EMT's and police where there inside of three minutes and convinced me to go to the ER.
My bike appears to be fine with the exception of the two flats in that the frame didn't get hit and does not appear to have hit the deck. There are some serious scrapes on the toe of my left shoe and I have road rash on my left elbow and shin in addition to what is hands down the worst bruse/road rash I've ever had/seen on my left ass cheek. I have a hematoma on half the cheek and road rash on the other half; I have no idea how I'm going to go to work this week because I can barely move as I type this.
In terms of who was at fault I can't really say, but as much as I hate to admit it I think it was probably my own fault for not seeing the blinker. Either that or the guy decided at the very last minute that he wanted to turn in there and just pulled off the road with very little warning. The sun was directly behind us so the blinker didn't stand out regardless, but I'm really upset that I'm going to be laid up for a week or so and unable to ride. On the flip side, however, I'm ecstatic that my injuries were not more severe, because based on the speed I was traveling and the force with which I hit the deck things could have been much worse. I'd post a picture of my injuries but it's basically just my ass so I"m not sure that's acceptable here.
Moral of the story? Stick to roads I like to ride and stay away from that part of town.
The driver of the car got out and immediately called 911 as I laid face down in the road. I was literally unable to move for about five minutes while I collected myself and the pain was like nothing I've ever experienced. Finally I had to get up and move myself because the 95 degree heat and beaming sunlight made the road surface way too hot for me to stay there. I had the guy help me stand, picked my bike up, and walked over to a spot in the shade where I laid down to wait for the ambulance. A lady who saw what happened ran into KFC and got me a large Coke because I was feeling like I was going to faint. The EMT's and police where there inside of three minutes and convinced me to go to the ER.
My bike appears to be fine with the exception of the two flats in that the frame didn't get hit and does not appear to have hit the deck. There are some serious scrapes on the toe of my left shoe and I have road rash on my left elbow and shin in addition to what is hands down the worst bruse/road rash I've ever had/seen on my left ass cheek. I have a hematoma on half the cheek and road rash on the other half; I have no idea how I'm going to go to work this week because I can barely move as I type this.
In terms of who was at fault I can't really say, but as much as I hate to admit it I think it was probably my own fault for not seeing the blinker. Either that or the guy decided at the very last minute that he wanted to turn in there and just pulled off the road with very little warning. The sun was directly behind us so the blinker didn't stand out regardless, but I'm really upset that I'm going to be laid up for a week or so and unable to ride. On the flip side, however, I'm ecstatic that my injuries were not more severe, because based on the speed I was traveling and the force with which I hit the deck things could have been much worse. I'd post a picture of my injuries but it's basically just my ass so I"m not sure that's acceptable here.
Moral of the story? Stick to roads I like to ride and stay away from that part of town.
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What was the speed limit? (I probably would have been in the lane at that kind of speed.)
It doesn't seem like a great place to do those kinds of speeds.
In terms of a strategy you can use to keep yourself safe, you might have made poor choices before not seeing the blinker.
In terms of a strategy you can use to keep yourself safe, you might have made poor choices before not seeing the blinker.
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Heal well, and soon.
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Great to hear you're relatively OK, and appear to have done a rational analysis of the potential causes of the accident. Good luck with the recovery.
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sounds like he was definitely at fault. He right hooked you. Common accident. Did the cops write a report? You should definitely be able to sue for damages/lost wages/shoes/hospital bills, etc.
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Depending on the road and speed limit, if I'm close to the speed limit I'll take the full road.
There's a place near campus called the strip, where all the bars, fast food, restaurants are. It's about a 3/4 mile stretch of road. I usually take the road even though I'm going about 5-10mph under. I'd rather take the lane and be seen then risk being passed closely or cut off. There's a lot of bad drivers on the strip.
The driver seemed nice about things though. At least they didn't drive off or get angry at you. Also, it's a good thing you went to the ER. I've heard, for insurance reasons, you're suppose to go to the ER even if you feel fine after an incident like that.
There's a place near campus called the strip, where all the bars, fast food, restaurants are. It's about a 3/4 mile stretch of road. I usually take the road even though I'm going about 5-10mph under. I'd rather take the lane and be seen then risk being passed closely or cut off. There's a lot of bad drivers on the strip.
The driver seemed nice about things though. At least they didn't drive off or get angry at you. Also, it's a good thing you went to the ER. I've heard, for insurance reasons, you're suppose to go to the ER even if you feel fine after an incident like that.
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If he signaled properly then no. If you are driving your car, signal properly, slow for a turn and someone (in a car or motorcycle) cuts around you because they were not paying attention (not saying thats what OP did) and are trying to avoid hitting you.............thats not gonna be your fault. No different on a bike.
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If he signaled properly then no. If you are driving your car, signal properly, slow for a turn and someone (in a car or motorcycle) cuts around you because they were not paying attention (not saying thats what OP did) and are trying to avoid hitting you.............thats not gonna be your fault. No different on a bike.
If the guy comes from behind and then slows down and turns in front, it's the car's fault. You can't pass and then pull in front like that. If the car was already in front, then that's another story.
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Glad your alright. I would definitely take the bike into the LBS and have it inspected. There could be damage that could lead to catastrophic failure down the road.
If it helps, everything that happened after the crash was pretty ideal. I've gone down really hard in the past due to the fault of someone else (and a little bit of mine), and the guy just called me a "f@g" and left.
Hope you feel better, and hope this works out for you and you are compensated for any damages.
If it helps, everything that happened after the crash was pretty ideal. I've gone down really hard in the past due to the fault of someone else (and a little bit of mine), and the guy just called me a "f@g" and left.
Hope you feel better, and hope this works out for you and you are compensated for any damages.
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Sounds like you dodged a bullet. Sounds like a recipe for a broken leg or hip, getting helicopter'd like that.
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If he signaled properly then no. If you are driving your car, signal properly, slow for a turn and someone (in a car or motorcycle) cuts around you because they were not paying attention (not saying thats what OP did) and are trying to avoid hitting you.............thats not gonna be your fault. No different on a bike.
Essentially, the driver crossed in front of a vehicle that had the right of way (it seems).
There is no indication that the cyclist "cut around" (moved laterally to the right to pass) the other car. He was just riding at the right side of the road. (The cyclist did move right to try to avoid the collision but that does not seem he was trying to pass the turning vehicle.)
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I interpreted it as the cyclist passed the car on the right and got his rear wheel clipped. That's the cyclist's fault.
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Sorry to hear this. Heal well and soon!!!
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Glad you're alive, dude. And the fact that you are able to post it on BF is a good sign ( I think)! Heal well!
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Bummer. Glad you're OK. That's a pretty fast speed to take a fall.
So, wait, there was no bike lane? As far as I knew, cars taking a right need to yield to you if you're in a bike lane, right??
So, wait, there was no bike lane? As far as I knew, cars taking a right need to yield to you if you're in a bike lane, right??
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Hey everyone, thanks for all the replies.
The problem is that I'm not sure exactly what happened, i.e. he could have swooped past me and then put his blinker on and then turned really quickly or he could have suddenly decided that he wanted to get some KFC and put the blinker on, braked, and turned in rapid succession. I was riding along the right hand edge of the right lane, along the parked cars. I do move out and take most of that lane so that I'm not riding close enough to the parked cars to get hit if a door opens. I do think he was coming from the middle lane but I can't say for sure.
There were police there and they did file a report, so I'll put a call in to the station so that I can get a copy and see if there's any liability on the guys part. He did do the right thing by sticking around and calling 911, so I can't fault him for that, but by the same token he did completely turn in front of me. I wasn't trying to pass him on the right at all, I just swerved to the right in an attempt to avoid his rapidly approaching bumper. I almost made it, but he clipped me just a bit. His car never hit my person, per se, just the trailing edge of my rear wheel.
The problem is that I'm not sure exactly what happened, i.e. he could have swooped past me and then put his blinker on and then turned really quickly or he could have suddenly decided that he wanted to get some KFC and put the blinker on, braked, and turned in rapid succession. I was riding along the right hand edge of the right lane, along the parked cars. I do move out and take most of that lane so that I'm not riding close enough to the parked cars to get hit if a door opens. I do think he was coming from the middle lane but I can't say for sure.
There were police there and they did file a report, so I'll put a call in to the station so that I can get a copy and see if there's any liability on the guys part. He did do the right thing by sticking around and calling 911, so I can't fault him for that, but by the same token he did completely turn in front of me. I wasn't trying to pass him on the right at all, I just swerved to the right in an attempt to avoid his rapidly approaching bumper. I almost made it, but he clipped me just a bit. His car never hit my person, per se, just the trailing edge of my rear wheel.
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I agree with both of your points here. My typical rides here in Boston involve using Beacon Street for both egress and ingress to the city, however yesterday I got greedy and kept wanting to add additional miles. This decision resulted in my returning to the city via Blue Hill Ave and Columbia Road which are both south of the city in the Hyde Park/Dorchester part of town. There are no bike lanes there and the people are horrible in terms of buzzing me and just driving erractically in general. I went against my better judgment in choosing to ride that road and paid the price.