Dux_Helm

So by the way, besides selling these on the forum for wholesale price this month, the guys decided to give one away.

All you have to do is to 'like' our page on FB, post a comment.
A random person from the comments will get a helmet at the end of this month.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/DUX-H...246?ref=stream

Lazy Dog

You might want to approach Gentex Optics out of Connecticut. They are one of the world's largest suppliers of Lexan optical products and specialize in shields like this.

For questions about Transitions Vantage lenses, https://www.transitionsvantage.com/ is a good place to start. They seem to darken in about 1.5 minutes in cooler temperatures (60-70 degrees).

Juan Foote

The issue I am seeing here is, what is keeping the wind, bugs, debris from coming right under the lens and still getting in your eye(s)?

Traditional glasses sit much closer to your face than I can envision these doing. Perhaps this subject has been covered and I just didn't see it? Other applications where such items are used (notably in pilot helms) are in an enclosed cockpit where wind is not an issue.

JCNeumann

The lenses not fogging up would be very interesting - I use a similar setup on a hockey lid, and the only way I can avoid fogging is careful cleaning every use, and rubbing in a film of dish soap with a paper towel.

I'd be REALLY on board for this, as I just got smacked in the face with a branch while going around a corner. Knocked my sunglasses off and I nearly went a** over teakettle.

Oh, one a poster earlier had mentioned concerned about having his face cut by the bottom end of the shield. This is a really valid question and concern, and a lot of reason hockey players fought half-shield requirements so hard. However, the goal of the shield is to protect your eyes and the very fragile facial bones around the nose and orbital area. If it is good Lexan, it will do that very well - yes you may have a cut on your face from the shield but that is a consequence of being hit VERY hard by a fast moving solid object. I've had three shields broken in games - two from pucks at 80+ mph and one from a stick. In one case I needed three stitches from the bottom of the shield. That's a trade I will make all day long.

Also, regarding the optical clarity of the shields: Oakley has some very good ones, and although they are not cheap I've never had an issue with their optical clarity. Most hockey players use contacts, but some wear glasses - never heard complaints in either case. [FYI, Hockey players complain about their equipment even more than bikers, so I would have definitely heard.... :-)]

yosarian9

I assumed you were involved with the project when I saw your username...
Id love to try one but would rather not buy shoes, helmets, ETC without trying them on first.

adefeatedman

I saw the post regarding larger sunglasses, but is there any chance of my black plastic eyeglasses fitting behind the shield? I really do hate not being able to see when I take off my prescription sunglasses when I stop at the coffee shop or the store.

Dux_Helm

Thanks for that, I will look into Gentex.

We have been talking to Ryders and to a US company called Numa.

Photocromic and polarized options we will look into down the road.

Dux_Helm

According to our tests degree is much more likely to shoot into your eyes from the gap on top of your glasses than from the bottom of our lens.
The lens is angled in such a way that makes it hard for anything to get up there..not impossible, but not easy.

Thanks to the spacing away from the face sweat and fogging is a non issue.

Shimagnolo

I did not realize how much we really ride with the helmet tilted down until I wore a video camera on the helmet. I kept getting lots of footage of the pavement in front of the bike until I pointed it sharply upward.

Dux_Helm

Get lens is an ongoing concern and process.
Ultimately what I want is a molded optically correct lenses.
The mold should allow for rounded beading on the bottom.
That will make it less likely to cut.
But also the action on the slider since light enough that (in theory) the lens should retract if it is pushed.

I'm with you though - if he impact to the upper face area is severe enough to cause cuts, there is a good chance without the lens the rider likely would have to ended up with a broken nose, damaged eye or worst.

Dux_Helm

The best thing you can do for me and for yourself is to chat with your LBD. Get them to contact me.
We have a ridiculously low minimum orders. 5 units puts them on the map as an official dealer.

Dux_Helm

Well, I ride with big black plastic prescription glasses too, but mine are Ray Ban sunglass frames. So mine work fine.
If he corners of your glasses stick out far, then he lens won't be able to go over them.

If they are fairly close at the temples then you should be good.

JCNeumann

IMO - don't go crazy with rolling the bottom edge. Lexan is really hard to deal with that, as it doesn't hold an edge well. If you have to you really need to roll it, something like a clear soft rubber would be better.

However, if it is only a liability concern, understand that you will still get cut with a violent impact. It is a small area being into the skin and it will cut it. When I played prep school hockey (~ Junior B) full cages are required, with padding between the cage and the chin. I got into two helmet to helmet collisions in one tournament, and had twenty stitches in my chin from the PADDING!

Im not sure where you guys are in BC, but if you can, go and look at the helmets and shields from the Major Junior teams. IIRC there's the Kelowna Rockets and the Vanvouver Giants. Talking to their equipment manager and medical trainer could get you much better information that the anecdotal BS I am spouting!

On a product note, have you considered clear shields? I only saw the smoke ones, and I'm not wild about those - I have prescription sunglasses that I'd wear underneath most of the time.

Feel free to IM me. There is a really strong bike community in Connecticut, and a lot of them are hockey players. Your helmet idea would resonate well here - I am putting in a preorder, and would be happy to take a beta version. The wind here really sucks, since we are on the shoreline, and something over my face would be appreciated!!

Dux_Helm

Thanks for the good ideas and pointers.
We do have clear and amber lenses available.

mpath

I see what you did there. Here, let me help you....

Dux_Helm

um....i don't get it..

mpath

Trying to help a fellow Vancouverite....the occasional bump doesn't hurt.

Dux_Helm

Thanks for that, but just to keep the mods from bringing the hammer down, I think it's better to stick to actual meaningful comments...
Not that I don't appreciate the sentiment, I do. Thank you.

dgasmd

Like the concept and the design. Photochromic lenses and polarized lenses are a must, and in my opinion have far more utility than the yellow, clear, or even the very dark tint. As much as I like the, I have to be honest to say the color are simply hideous at best!!! I know it sounds trivial for something that is simply design for a safety feature, but it is the reality that I ahve to wear that thing in my head for hours. I am a fashionista!!

TrainingProgram

it cool. i want to try it out.

Dux_Helm

What colour combos would you like to see?
What is wrong with current? Tint design or combination?

Does anybody else think colours are no good?

Shimagnolo

I like the Black Carbon, Silver Carbon, and White Carbon.
I'm not so keen of the others; Just too "busy" looking.

Lazy Dog

It's going to be very costly and challenging adding photochromic treatment to this shield. It would most likely price people out of the product. Polarized would be more doable and practical.

cruiserhead

The graphics are holding the helmet back. They look mid/low range. Too busy.
The solid/simple colors and more simple graphics look bolder and show off the design, as well as looking of higher quality.

I'm sorry to say the graphics you have currently on the multi-color helmets have more in common with dept store offerings rather than high end helmets.

I think the solid carbon styles look great though.

Just my opinion

Dux_Helm

The newest batch of coloured ones is somewhat redesigned.

I will post some photos for a critique once I have them.