Long Sleeves for Tan Lines?
02-14-20, 10:28 AM
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BTW, the article mentions the low mortality rate of skin cancer and that's correct. But it's foolish to look at a disease only in terms of whether you'll survive. That comment in the article alone makes the balance of it questionable.
02-14-20, 10:29 AM
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Big John, I know what you mean. I just went over your other posts so I now understand that low vitamin D may be your only issue. If that's the case and you're otherwise healthy, low vitamin D may not be cause for concern. You're certainly right about doctors; there's good and bad - like everyone else.
Yeah I don't think the low D was affecting the heart issue I was dealing with and the problem seems to have resolved itself. Actually the woman doctor I have seen recently has been pretty good. I really don't like it when they say things like "for your age you look pretty good". Or 2 years ago one said "well you are 64", as if I shouldn't expect to feel good anymore.
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02-14-20, 11:07 AM
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I actually went through that. I injured my ankle showing off on my motorcycle, it would pop and wake me up at night. X-rays were done, exams performed and steroids were prescribed. The steroids did nothing for the ankle but my thumb (an old work injury) felt better than it had in years. Bottom line, they said live with it.
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Really, why on earth should I reread the entire lengthy article just to find the nugget or two that may be relevant? If it were that important perhaps you could tell us all what it is instead of just adding a link. Beyond that, though, I'm already aware of other health benefits of sunlight.
02-14-20, 11:26 PM
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If you're too lazy to read something, that's not my problem.
That's a straw man argument. No one implied that death rate is the only thing to look at. Furthermore, the treatment for basal-cell carcinomas or squamous-cell carcinomas is generally not something that would be considered life altering. Certainly it's not like treating prostate, breast, colorectal, and pancreatic cancers, all of which occur at higher rates in people that avoid the sun.
That's a straw man argument. No one implied that death rate is the only thing to look at. Furthermore, the treatment for basal-cell carcinomas or squamous-cell carcinomas is generally not something that would be considered life altering. Certainly it's not like treating prostate, breast, colorectal, and pancreatic cancers, all of which occur at higher rates in people that avoid the sun.
02-15-20, 04:31 AM
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If you're too lazy to read something, that's not my problem.
That's a straw man argument. No one implied that death rate is the only thing to look at. Furthermore, the treatment for basal-cell carcinomas or squamous-cell carcinomas is generally not something that would be considered life altering. Certainly it's not like treating prostate, breast, colorectal, and pancreatic cancers, all of which occur at higher rates in people that avoid the sun.
That's a straw man argument. No one implied that death rate is the only thing to look at. Furthermore, the treatment for basal-cell carcinomas or squamous-cell carcinomas is generally not something that would be considered life altering. Certainly it's not like treating prostate, breast, colorectal, and pancreatic cancers, all of which occur at higher rates in people that avoid the sun.
02-15-20, 11:32 AM
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Ultraviolet radiation from the sun has both beneficial and harmful effects on human health.... A balance is required between excessive sun exposure which increases the risk of skin cancer and enough sun exposure to maintain adequate vitamin D levels.
02-15-20, 03:01 PM
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I've personally had to remove entire noses, half a mouth, entire eyes, mandibles and other bones, tongues, and parts of frontal lobe of brain (aggresive nonmelanoma skin cancers around the eyes like to track along nerves back into the brain, sadly) chasing those tumors around. I guess it just depends on one's perspective how significant that may be.
02-15-20, 07:39 PM
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I've personally had to remove entire noses, half a mouth, entire eyes, mandibles and other bones, tongues, and parts of frontal lobe of brain (aggresive nonmelanoma skin cancers around the eyes like to track along nerves back into the brain, sadly) chasing those tumors around. I guess it just depends on one's perspective how significant that may be.
Not to mention that significant sun damage can leave you looking like a barbecue potato chip.
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02-15-20, 08:58 PM
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Some believe sun exposure should be totally avoided. And there's apparently others who assume the health benefits of sunlight are worth the risks created by overexposure. But there's a middle ground here in which sunlight's benefits can be achieved without substantial risk. Here's a quote from a link provided by OBoile:
In short, using sunscreen when needed to avoid overexposure should help minimize the dangers of skin cancer while still reducing the need for a diaper.
In short, using sunscreen when needed to avoid overexposure should help minimize the dangers of skin cancer while still reducing the need for a diaper.
02-15-20, 09:03 PM
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I've personally had to remove entire noses, half a mouth, entire eyes, mandibles and other bones, tongues, and parts of frontal lobe of brain (aggresive nonmelanoma skin cancers around the eyes like to track along nerves back into the brain, sadly) chasing those tumors around. I guess it just depends on one's perspective how significant that may be.
02-16-20, 04:34 AM
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You obviously still don't get it. But for others, there is no trade-off. Wearing sunscreen or other UVA protection when outdoors for more than around 30 minutes will reduce the risk of skin cancer while still providing the health benefits. And arguing that one disease is better than another when you can try to avoid both is silly.
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02-16-20, 07:06 AM
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You obviously still don't get it. But for others, there is no trade-off. Wearing sunscreen or other UVA protection when outdoors for more than around 30 minutes will reduce the risk of skin cancer while still providing the health benefits. And arguing that one disease is better than another when you can try to avoid both is silly.
30 minutes is certainly more reasonable than:
I'm glad to see you've learned something. Enjoy your improved mental health and decreased risk of dying.
02-17-20, 12:56 PM
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So these tan lines are getting ridiculous. On my already dark skin, I now look like I have sleeve tattoos (and this is from only riding 3 times a week, 1.5 hrs a ride)... and let me tell you, I'm not the kind of guy that can pull off sleeve tattoos.
Do any of you wear long sleeve jerseys to protect yourself from the sun/prevent tan lines?
The thing is, it's always hot/sunny where I live and I'm gonna keep wearing bib shorts.
I hear shorts and long sleeves are a fashion fau pa... but then again, I ride alone and don't care what I look like (tan lines aside obviously
Do any of you wear long sleeve jerseys to protect yourself from the sun/prevent tan lines?
The thing is, it's always hot/sunny where I live and I'm gonna keep wearing bib shorts.
I hear shorts and long sleeves are a fashion fau pa... but then again, I ride alone and don't care what I look like (tan lines aside obviously
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02-17-20, 01:35 PM
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I've been using very lightweight Louis Garneau "arm warmers" daily. They only help a bit for warmth, but they breathe so incredibly well that I've found them wearable on a daily basis. They prevent the odd itchiness that I now get on my arms when they are exposed to the sun (even with sunscreen). Now if I could just find the same thing for the back of my neck without sweating like a pig ...
02-17-20, 02:11 PM
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Lets hope these sleeve won't make you sweat like a pig. I hate wearing them when it's hot outside.
02-17-20, 02:53 PM
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You obviously still don't get it. But for others, there is no trade-off. Wearing sunscreen or other UVA protection when outdoors for more than around 30 minutes will reduce the risk of skin cancer while still providing the health benefits. And arguing that one disease is better than another when you can try to avoid both is silly.
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So these tan lines are getting ridiculous. On my already dark skin, I now look like I have sleeve tattoos (and this is from only riding 3 times a week, 1.5 hrs a ride)... and let me tell you, I'm not the kind of guy that can pull off sleeve tattoos.
Do any of you wear long sleeve jerseys to protect yourself from the sun/prevent tan lines?
The thing is, it's always hot/sunny where I live and I'm gonna keep wearing bib shorts.
I hear shorts and long sleeves are a fashion fau pa... but then again, I ride alone and don't care what I look like (tan lines aside obviously
Do any of you wear long sleeve jerseys to protect yourself from the sun/prevent tan lines?
The thing is, it's always hot/sunny where I live and I'm gonna keep wearing bib shorts.
I hear shorts and long sleeves are a fashion fau pa... but then again, I ride alone and don't care what I look like (tan lines aside obviously
Problem solved!
02-17-20, 05:43 PM
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02-17-20, 07:02 PM
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