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Old 03-15-20, 12:53 PM
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What is this and do I need it?

The plastic cover/guard looking thing between my cassette and the spokes.


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Old 03-15-20, 12:56 PM
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It's called a dork disc. It's meant to protect your chain from falling and damaging other components when it's on the biggest cog.

It's ugly and useless if your RD is adjusted properly.
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Originally Posted by eduskator
It's called a dork disc. It's meant to protect your chain from falling when it's on the biggest cog. It's ugly and useless for most modern drivetrains.
So if I accidentally shifted past the big ring, the chain would fall off? I'm a relative noob and don't keep track of which ring I'm in.
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This is colloquially known as a “dork disc”. Don’t know what the official term is. If your derailleur is improperly adjusted or gets knocked during a fall, this disc protects the derailleur from getting caught in the spokes. Saves you money and possibly skin.

This one is kind of small, so it might just be there to keep the chain from jamming itself between the cassette and spokes.

I’d recommend keeping it.

EDIT: Too slow

”Properly adjusted” entails setting the “limit screws”, which will prevent you from overshifting. You’ll feel a hard stop if you try.
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Originally Posted by smashndash
This is colloquially known as a “dork disc”. Don’t know what the official term is. If your derailleur is improperly adjusted or gets knocked during a fall, this disc protects the derailleur from getting caught in the spokes. Saves you money and possibly skin.

This one is kind of small, so it might just be there to keep the chain from jamming itself between the cassette and spokes.

I’d recommend keeping it.

EDIT: Too slow

”Properly adjusted” entails setting the “limit screws”, which will prevent you from overshifting. You’ll feel a hard stop if you try.
Interesting.
Thanks; I guess I'll keep it then.
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If you are the type that doesn't fix anything till it's destroyed, then you need one. But if you don't find it aesthetically pleasing, and you or someone will investigate and find the cause of any chain or derailleur issues before it's a tragedy, then you don't need it.
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supposedly it costs 2mph... this is from the source:
https://www.bikeforums.net/11975358-post2.html
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All my bikes still wear them. I have never had a complaint from other riders----yet. lol
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If you need to ask, you should keep it until you learn how to adjust your rear derailleur well enough that you don't need it anymore.
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Old 03-16-20, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Metallifan33
So if I accidentally shifted past the big ring, the chain would fall off? I'm a relative noob and don't keep track of which ring I'm in.
No! There is a limit screw (dumb proof mechanism if you want). Try to downshift when your chain is on the lowest gear - it should be impossible mechanically speaking.
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It is not going to hurt your riding and could help you. I would keep it but that is up to you.
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Originally Posted by eduskator
No! There is a limit screw (dumb proof mechanism if you want). Try to downshift when your chain is on the lowest gear - it should be impossible mechanically speaking.
You've never had the limit screw come out of adjustment? Perhaps not if you understand what it does and you are the only one that messes with your own bike.

I had kids that liked to imitate dad and they thought they understood how to adjust their own bikes DR's. The dork disc probably saved me from having to buy them a couple more bikes.
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Originally Posted by smashndash
This is colloquially known as a “dork disc”. Don’t know what the official term is.
Lawsuit deflector?
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The least expensive way to shed a few grams from the bike is what I call it.
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Mechanical paradox...
- If you need to ask, you need it
- If you know how to remove it, you don't need it


A little more explanation of what the guys are saying... Derailleurs have a few adjustments. One category of these is the limit of travel - Low and High, e.g. how far up and down the cassette the derailleur can move. These are set with screws. Sort of a "set and forget" thing in that they shouldn't need adjustment again, once set properly. If they are set properly, the chain can't drop off the backside of that largest cog - into the spokes - because the limit screw prevents that much movement/travel of the derailleur.

95% of "us" remove these "dork discs" pretty much the day we bring the bike or wheel set home. But... it's really not a big deal. Lots of these guys also care whether your sunglass arms are under or over your helmet straps. ;-)

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It protects your wheel spokes if your chain drops off the biggest cog into the gap between the spokes and the cogset. If you are climbing a hill with a lot of pressure on the pedals, chain drops off, and you really jam your chain in there, you can cause a good amount of damage to the wheel. Prob. called a "spoke protector" in a parts catalog. Just keep it there and forget about it. If you get to the Tour of Switzerland, have your chief mechanic double check your limit screws and take it off.

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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
supposedly it costs 2mph... this is from the source:
https://www.bikeforums.net/11975358-post2.html
Possibly Adds 2mph? Partial disc wheel.
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I'm a dork, and I need a 10th post
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just don't try to burn it off ...

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Originally Posted by Zaskar
Mechanical paradox...
- If you need to ask, you need it
- If know how to remove it, you don't need it


A little more explanation of what the guys are saying... Derailleurs have a few adjustments. One category of these is the limit of travel - Low and High, e.g. how far up and down the cassette the derailleur can move. These are set with screws. Sort of a "set and forget" thing in that they shouldn't need adjustment again, once set properly. If they are set properly, the chain can't drop off the backside of that largest cog - into the spokes - because the limit screw prevents that much movement/travel of the derailleur.

95% of "us" remove these "dork discs" pretty much the day we bring the bike or wheel set home. But... it's really not a big deal. Lots of these guys also care whether your sunglass arms are under or over your helmet straps. ;-)
Yeah, after I bought the bike in December, I slowly figured out to lose the caps on the tubes, reflectors, and have the power train showing when taking pics... all of which made sense... until I read the sunglasses thing on the Velominati site. For the life of me, I can't figure that one out.
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Originally Posted by sfrider
Lawsuit deflector?
Exactly! lol

Same reason why they put stickers ''do not dry your hair in the bathtub'' on hairdryers.

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Originally Posted by Zaskar
Mechanical paradox...
- If you need to ask, you need it
- If know how to remove it, you don't need it

best reply ever! Can be applied to so many mech items.....made me smile.
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Originally Posted by sdmc530
best reply ever! Can be applied to so many mech items.....made me smile.
If only I'd fixed the typo in time ;-)
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That's a plastic disc to protect if the chain goes past the top gear.
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