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Old 07-31-19, 12:23 PM
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Plank position

I bring this up because it may serve to benefit others in a similar physical state as myself. I have had for many years now, and still do have what I would describe as "back discomfort" just going through daily routine life. I also just call it "old man back". It's hard being 43 years old It leaks into my cycling due to the leaned over position which is customary. Cycling itself has made me more fit and helped with my back discomfort. Something else I found that brought on great relief to being in my cycling position is practicing the plank position. So this really translates to core strengthening I suppose.




I found that if I get down in a plank for even just 30 seconds, just 1-2 times per day, I notice a significant difference in the way I feel when on my bike. I feel much more at ease and stronger overall in that particular seated position. When I am really disciplined, I hold the position from 30-60 seconds at a time and repeat at least a few times a day, and I really feel great.

On the other hand, as easy as it is to set aside 30-60 seconds, just 1-3 times a day, I often times get lazy. When I catch myself getting lazy and going plankless for a week, 2 weeks, and longer, I definitely feel it when I ride. Crazy, right? Such a simple and non time consuming move can make such a positive difference. Or if I don't do it, my overall ride suffers because of the discomfort which occupies my mind away from the real task at hand. I usually bail out earlier than what I would plan because I'm just not comfortable.

I highly recommend working the plank into your day if you suffer from back discomfort while riding. I also imagine it could benefit all cyclist.

Do you do any relatively quick and easy exercises or stretches that you feel have great benefit for your cycling?
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Originally Posted by bradyweb
Do you do any relatively quick and easy exercises or stretches that you feel have great benefit for your cycling?
Oh yes, even do some planks. My lower back is my weak spot on long rides (up to a century), and core work is required - and it does not take much really. My favorite is the one where you get on all fours and hold out the opposite arm and leg and hold - I can tell it is hitting the exact same muscle that bothers me on rides. Also some yoga poses and push ups (I like a fair amount of hand pressure when I ride, I think a bit more than most folks). And some yoga sun salutes, if you did not know anything about yoga you would think a road cyclist invented them.
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I went to an offseason strength and flexibility class this winter where a lot of the floor work was yoga-adjacent. Various types of planks. One I thought was really excellent was to get on all fours and then raise the opposite hand and foot straight out. The twist is to put a squishy ball under one of the support points (hand or knee) while you do this. Move the squishy ball to a new hand or knee and repeat until you've done all four.
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Originally Posted by 55murray
My favorite is the one where you get on all fours and hold out the opposite arm and leg and hold - I can tell it is hitting the exact same muscle that bothers me on rides.

I'm definitely going to try this one out this evening. The little I do does help me out so much. I just have to make sure to keep it going as I know it pays off on my rides.
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Old 07-31-19, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by caloso
One I thought was really excellent was to get on all fours and then raise the opposite hand and foot straight out. The twist is to put a squishy ball under one of the support points (hand or knee) while you do this. Move the squishy ball to a new hand or knee and repeat until you've done all four.
Sounds very advanced, but I'll have to give it a whirl!
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Good thread.

...have to laugh at 'old man back', and 'it's hard being 43yo '. Sounds like your next birthday will celebrate feeling 70 years old - my next.
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Core strengthening is what keeps my back in working order. There are numerous variations on core exercises so I rotate them to avoid stale efforts. Have been doing them for many years. Same for knee strengthening.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
Good thread.

...have to laugh at 'old man back', and 'it's hard being 43yo '. Sounds like your next birthday will celebrate feeling 70 years old - my next.
I hope by the time I'm 70 I will have done all the things necessary to reverse this "old man back"
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Originally Posted by bradyweb
Sounds very advanced, but I'll have to give it a whirl!
It takes a little getting used to but it really forces you to concentrate on being still and balanced.
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I do a few.

Bent over rows. This serves to engage the low back muscles unlike the same motion on a machine. I do this for relief of a pinched nerve in my upper back but I won't lift a weight I'm not strong enough to support with my lower.

Low back extension. Bend over and straighten up while keeping everything tight. This really seems to help my 41 year old "old man back"

The other I do is the classic kettle bell swing between the legs and up thing. It's the one you see in any commercial to show how dedicated to fitness someone it. It's mostly a leg workout but I like it because it does move through a whole lot of joints dynamically. I just use a dumbell and hold on tight.

I also do a dumbell bench press just because I think I should. At <140, I am not worried about getting too swole.
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GCN had a video with Emma Pooley - one of her first videos - where she does a number of core exercises that include the stuff mention here. She did planks, the all-fours-raise-opposite-hands-and-feet, and some other things that turn out to be yoga poses. I didn't know they were yoga, they just looked useful.

Another video had exercises to stretch your psoas muscle. Step forward and bend your knee. Raise your hands to the sky to keep your back straight. You should feel it in your psoas/hip flexor. Alternate steps across the floor.

Another one: Stand straight. Bend over at your waist keeping your legs straight. Lean forward until your hands are on the ground. Walk out your hands to the push up position (or farther if you're adventurous). Walk your feet towards your hands keeping your legs straight. Move across the floor alternating walking hands and feet.
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Originally Posted by rosefarts
I also do a dumbell bench press just because I think I should. At <140, I am not worried about getting too swole.

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LOL, he's a "funny guy".

I have a thing where I get a set of #25 dumbbells, one in each hand hung to the side, and stand up as perfectly straight as I can. Once I've achieved that, I will do a set of 20. Then lean over and put the dumbbells on the ground in front of me, while still holding onto them. Do a 10 second or so hamstring stretch, then stand up again (never letting go of the dumbbells) and do a set of 20 and repeat the hamstring stretch. I do three sets and never let go of the weights, takes about 3-4 minutes total.

So I'm getting

1.) posture help
2.) arm, shoulder, and upper back strength training
3.) back and hamstring stretches

The curls really add power to my climbing. I can practically pull my way up hills for short distances, and the stretching helps flatten out my back. Plus it only takes like 3 minutes, well worth the time. And plus they keep my arms from getting too skinny.
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I'm going to be so incredibly ripped AND swole after I implement a little bit of everyone's exercises and stretches into my daily routine!
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I tried the plank, it looked difficult, but it's really easy. My back popped the first time I did one, I was sold. Incredibly useful exercise for cyclists.

Twice a day seems plenty, though obviously if I worked in the porn industry, probably triple that.
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I'm in the Navy and we have a semiannual fitness test. We can ride an exercise bike for the cardio portion (so I do). It's twelve minutes and the scoring is basically a W/kg test.

We also do two minutes of push ups and sit ups but next Spring we will trade out the sit ups for planks. It's a better test of core strength. So it's a win/win for me. I'd do it for biking and now I can do it for the Navy.
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Don’t forget the need to stretch after riding. I can hold various planks for 3+ min but if I don’t stretch my back will remind me.
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Don’t forget the need to stretch after riding. I can hold various planks for 3+ min but if I don’t stretch my back will remind me.
3 minute planks...that's great! Maybe I'm just a wuss but I hope I can build up to 2-3 at some point. My back would probably feel great!
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Getting Ripped and Swole sounds illegal. Gonna have to try it.
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
I tried the plank, it looked difficult, but it's really easy.
My reaction was the opposite. I thought "that looks easy", but after 15 seconds or so it became much more difficult to hold the position.
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43 years old and the back has troubles? Sounds reasonable.

The first time I threw out my back hard was at age 38, from years of lifting heavy things improperly at work. Nature of the job, unfortunately.

Now I'm 54, so 16 years of back and leg stretches daily. Plus, about 4 or 5 years ago I got a Teeter inverter, which I hang on upside down by the ankles when needed. It helps greatly with lower back pain and sciatica pain. I used it last night due to severe sciatica pain that wouldn't let me sleep. Worked like a charm and finally slept like a baby.

I have to admit, I've never tried the plank. Worth a try tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for bringing it up, @bradyweb.
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Originally Posted by berner
Getting Ripped and Swole sounds illegal. Gonna have to try it.
Lol!
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Originally Posted by jon c.
My reaction was the opposite. I thought "that looks easy", but after 15 seconds or so it became much more difficult to hold the position.
I think you are absolutely right. The basic position really does look simple and to the eye it looks like something you can hold for near as long as you wanted. Reality soon sets in if it's your first time and the burn is real. For something so simple, it's amazing the benefits you can get from it...even only dedicating 30-90 seconds a day to it.
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IME one of the best tools for working your core/abs are kettlebells....The other thing that's also good is doing rotational exercises while standing ( eg. hitting a tire with a heavy sledge hammer)... Asymmetrical lifting is also very good. ..All these other exercises like sit-ups, crunches, planks and other nonsense is just a waste of time and energy.
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Originally Posted by FiftySix
Plus, about 4 or 5 years ago I got a Teeter inverter, which I hang on upside down by the ankles when needed. It helps greatly with lower back pain and sciatica pain. I used it last night due to severe sciatica pain that wouldn't let me sleep. Worked like a charm and finally slept like a baby. [/MENTION].
Because of my back issues I have always had a curiosity about those inversion tables and if they do any good. It seems to me, that type of stretch would feel amazing to my achy back. I may have to try one now!
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