Heavy Tourque - Chain Pops & Jumps, but Why?
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Heavy Tourque - Chain Pops & Jumps, but Why?
Folks, I've been an avid rider for many decades but this is my first post here.
I use a Hybrid 'Mountain' Bike frame (fixed) w/ a 7 speed rear cassette I moved over from the previous rim.
The front end is a three ring, but really I usually leave it on the largest gear up front & just work the Rear Derailleur.
(I have a feeling I should go outside and count the teeth on all these gears...).
My riding is done on City Streets, hardly any off-road, more pot-hole/curb/speed-bump jumping, moderate to steep hill climbing of short duration, and that Last-Mile from the Bus/Train or in-between gigs during the day.
My trouble, to finally get to it, is that almost any selection of Rear gearing, when used with the MID Front Gear will slip, pop, & jump the chain. Medium but still seated pedaling is not possible on the middle range, front gear, at all.
The Largest Front Gear is where I live most of the time, but If I stand up and really crank on the pedals I can get the chain to pop off, so to speak. It's a really bad thing to have happen when navigating traffic, I can tell you.
The Front's Little Gear is a pretty trouble free part of the bike, It's used to climb Overpasses w/ Groceries strapped to the rack or pretty much 50% of San Francisco's landscape.
I'd replaced the Chain a year or more ago- I'm harboring a sneaky suspicion that it's too long and needs some links taken out. (How would I know if a chain is the right length?)
Might the Rear Derailleur be failing to pull back enough tension on that chain, keeping it wrapped on the gears?
I ride most every day for transportation, but my legs aren't super massive; it's crazy that I'm overpowering the drive train...
Thx in advance,
TBerk
I use a Hybrid 'Mountain' Bike frame (fixed) w/ a 7 speed rear cassette I moved over from the previous rim.
The front end is a three ring, but really I usually leave it on the largest gear up front & just work the Rear Derailleur.
(I have a feeling I should go outside and count the teeth on all these gears...).
My riding is done on City Streets, hardly any off-road, more pot-hole/curb/speed-bump jumping, moderate to steep hill climbing of short duration, and that Last-Mile from the Bus/Train or in-between gigs during the day.
My trouble, to finally get to it, is that almost any selection of Rear gearing, when used with the MID Front Gear will slip, pop, & jump the chain. Medium but still seated pedaling is not possible on the middle range, front gear, at all.
The Largest Front Gear is where I live most of the time, but If I stand up and really crank on the pedals I can get the chain to pop off, so to speak. It's a really bad thing to have happen when navigating traffic, I can tell you.
The Front's Little Gear is a pretty trouble free part of the bike, It's used to climb Overpasses w/ Groceries strapped to the rack or pretty much 50% of San Francisco's landscape.
I'd replaced the Chain a year or more ago- I'm harboring a sneaky suspicion that it's too long and needs some links taken out. (How would I know if a chain is the right length?)
Might the Rear Derailleur be failing to pull back enough tension on that chain, keeping it wrapped on the gears?
I ride most every day for transportation, but my legs aren't super massive; it's crazy that I'm overpowering the drive train...
Thx in advance,
TBerk
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Worn Cassette, worn front chainrings. Worn chain.
Chain length here:
Javascript Bicycle Chain Length Calculator
Chain length here:
Javascript Bicycle Chain Length Calculator
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(insert Sad Face Emoticon -here-)
Cool, thx; I bookmarked the link.
I'm liking those new 11 speed setups and am looking into retrofitting to a Single Front gear/ Wide Range Rear cassette w/ appropriate Derailleur & chain.
Chain length here:<snipp'd URL, I'm still a new-fish...>
I'm liking those new 11 speed setups and am looking into retrofitting to a Single Front gear/ Wide Range Rear cassette w/ appropriate Derailleur & chain.
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Don't be sad. It's times like this that you will talk yourself into a new bike.
If you are in SF take a drive to:
https://blackmtncycles.com
Pt Reyes and test ride some bikes, just for the heck of it.
If you are in SF take a drive to:
https://blackmtncycles.com
Pt Reyes and test ride some bikes, just for the heck of it.
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I had that happen when I replaced the chain with a Campy chain on a 9 speed Daytona group. Didn't happen with the old chain and the chainwheels didn't look very worn. New chainwheels and the problem was gone. I suppose worn chainwheels teeth get more sloped and ramp the chain up when its loaded. Can't visualize why a worn chain with the rollers further apart wouldn't be a problem. Somehow the greater distance between rollers keeps them off the worn sloping part of the tooth. Maybe because when they are on the chainwheel the wear makes them closer together.
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Whenever I'd replace a chain...and had waited a bit too long before doing so, I'd have skipping/jumping on cassette. Replaced cassette and in each case problem was gone.
I've begun to replace chains now much sooner and in doing so I have not had the issue.
I've begun to replace chains now much sooner and in doing so I have not had the issue.
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New chain skip is a common problem. It can be avoided by alternating the use of several chains, so a new chain is never installed on a well worn cassette. As long as each chain gets a decent amount of use, the cassette will last for the life of all the chains in the rotation and each chain can be used longer.
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In addition to the existing comments here (which are all pretty much correct - though it's ridiculous to invoke "New Bike Excuse" on this alone), I'd bet the wear between the new chain and the old cassette is contributing to the skippage/chain skate in all gears.
Swap the cassette (or freewheel, as it may be) with a new 7-speed unit. If the chain hasn't been prematurely worn over that first year of use, the problem should go away. If not, put on a new chain along with the cassette/freewheel. Problem solved.
-Kurt
Swap the cassette (or freewheel, as it may be) with a new 7-speed unit. If the chain hasn't been prematurely worn over that first year of use, the problem should go away. If not, put on a new chain along with the cassette/freewheel. Problem solved.
-Kurt