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Old 03-15-16, 06:38 AM
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Nice, got some details?
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Originally Posted by shoota
Nice, got some details?
Coda Mavic x223 off a newer Dale, 13t cog/50t sprocket on Truativ crank, Clark hydro on Homemade Bracket in the rear/ Hayes up front, Oury grip on 4za bar and stem, carbon OG Evkin saddle on Truativ seatpost, 1" Threaded Frankensteined Manitou forks
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Yeah, stealth, I like it !
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First view of a little winter project. Not sure if you'd qualify it as 'vintage':



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@top506 Is that a '94 R600? I have the same year and love that bike.
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Originally Posted by sloar
Nice looking bike. How does the 105 compare to the 600?
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600 looks better, but as far as performance I can't tell a difference.
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Don't tell me that came from the dump too?


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First view of a little winter project. Not sure if you'd qualify it as 'vintage':



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Yes, it's a '94 R600, and no, it didn't come out of the dump. The frame and fork were sourced from a BF member and the rest of the build was from the parts bin. I'm still tweeking the cockpit for the correct stem reach and rise.

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This story starts several months ago, looking for framesets on CL and Ebay in the 66-68cm range. I already had a host of 64/65cm frames built into wonderful bikes along with a recent (last autumn) 68cm Nishiki rain/touring/winter/apocalypse build that, by the way, has performed flawlessly with minimal upkeep in a record-setting winter for Seattle (read: SO. MUCH. RAIN.), which I think we are clear of. Thank God.

A month ago or so, I came across this huge Cannondale frame, but was initially put off by the cantilevered stays, "high BB crit geometry" and steep tube angles. And I didn't really need to build up another bike. Well, the frameset never sold and I got curious. The Cannondale name of course is a good one, and heck, it has the word cannon in it; it sounds strong. I peruse the catalog after confirming year and size via the serial number, and it's a 1989 3.0, in the frameset-only 66cm size. Seller lists a properly tall standover height. Good. I calculate a 66mm BB drop, which is not bad at all, and wonder about a 74.75° head tube angle, but think here's my shot to own one of these. 7400 headset and BB and I have the basis for a build, planning on 10-speed Dura-Ace smartly sourced from CL etc as best as possible.

I snagged a gorgeous 180mm 7400 DA crankset off ebay and we were off to the races, waiting for it all to arrive. 7800 DA brakes from a guy in Portland, a killer deal on 7800 STIs, FD, and RD (FD was clamp on, so sourced a 5700 braze-on style FD). Wheels and cassette (both newer 105) I had as well as bars. Odds and ends obtained with a temporarily-borrowed (from another bike) Prologo saddle being exchanged after a day's test riding for a Brooks B17, which not only completed the look, but perfected the ride. And oh what a ride. Aluminum for the power transfer, and the long frame tubes, B17, folding tires, and low section rims for the impact absorption.

Gorgeous "vintage" bicycle--I love the cantilevered stays, red paint, geometry, and clean decals. The steep HT is dynamite in turns and is stable in descents (maxed out at 53-11)--simply sublime. 7800 DA is the business and you can feel the 180mm cranks (over the 175s I normally run) work in your favor. 22 lbs with SPD pedals. The bike wants to run. RiddleOfSteel just built himself the perfect bike for him as he pursued the fleshing out of the theory of saddle height = bar height (or super close) = extremely nice long range comfort for years to come, and it's made out of aluminum (which he never had a problem with before--the frames were too small). Who knew? Anyway, I love it, and I hope to get better pictures of it, but this will have to do for now. Rider context: 6'5" @ 210 lbs with bike at 36.0" stand-over height.
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ROS, Nice build.

My '89 was my intro to Cannondales, way back when. It took me awhile to become accustomed to the cantilevered seat stays, but then I looked at them as a signature design, so much so that when Cannondale returned to non cantilevered seat stays I thought they were odd looking, for a Cannondale. Now-a-days my '89 is generally rode when I want to rail some turns, which from the 'filthyness' of it's present state must have been fairly often last year!

On a side note, I have some 32 hole CXP22 rims for an '88 build that I used for awhile on my '99. While they will not win a weight weenie award, they've proven to be a reliable rim after quite a few miles on less than ideal roads.

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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
This story starts several months ago, looking for framesets on CL and Ebay in the 66-68cm range. I already had a host of 64/65cm frames built into wonderful bikes along with a recent (last autumn) 68cm Nishiki rain/touring/winter/apocalypse build that, by the way, has performed flawlessly with minimal upkeep in a record-setting winter for Seattle (read: SO. MUCH. RAIN.), which I think we are clear of. Thank God.

A month ago or so, I came across this huge Cannondale frame, but was initially put off by the cantilevered stays, "high BB crit geometry" and steep tube angles. And I didn't really need to build up another bike. Well, the frameset never sold and I got curious. The Cannondale name of course is a good one, and heck, it has the word cannon in it; it sounds strong. I peruse the catalog after confirming year and size via the serial number, and it's a 1989 3.0, in the frameset-only 66cm size. Seller lists a properly tall standover height. Good. I calculate a 66mm BB drop, which is not bad at all, and wonder about a 74.75° head tube angle, but think here's my shot to own one of these. 7400 headset and BB and I have the basis for a build, planning on 10-speed Dura-Ace smartly sourced from CL etc as best as possible.

I snagged a gorgeous 180mm 7400 DA crankset off ebay and we were off to the races, waiting for it all to arrive. 7800 DA brakes from a guy in Portland, a killer deal on 7800 STIs, FD, and RD (FD was clamp on, so sourced a 5700 braze-on style FD). Wheels and cassette (both newer 105) I had as well as bars. Odds and ends obtained with a temporarily-borrowed (from another bike) Prologo saddle being exchanged after a day's test riding for a Brooks B17, which not only completed the look, but perfected the ride. And oh what a ride. Aluminum for the power transfer, and the long frame tubes, B17, folding tires, and low section rims for the impact absorption.

Gorgeous "vintage" bicycle--I love the cantilevered stays, red paint, geometry, and clean decals. The steep HT is dynamite in turns and is stable in descents (maxed out at 53-11)--simply sublime. 7800 DA is the business and you can feel the 180mm cranks (over the 175s I normally run) work in your favor. 22 lbs with SPD pedals. The bike wants to run. RiddleOfSteel just built himself the perfect bike for him as he pursued the fleshing out of the theory of saddle height = bar height (or super close) = extremely nice long range comfort for years to come, and it's made out of aluminum (which he never had a problem with before--the frames were too small). Who knew? Anyway, I love it, and I hope to get better pictures of it, but this will have to do for now. Rider context: 6'5" @ 210 lbs with bike at 36.0" stand-over height.
Wow great story, and 22lbs with those boat anchor parts is really impressive!
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Very nice. Three thumbs up!
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Wow great story, and 22lbs with those boat anchor parts is really impressive!

Mtnbike must have a twin that was seperated at birth!
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Mtnbike must have a twin that was seperated at birth!
Remarkable.
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Thanks, guys!

I know I could lop two pounds off pretty quickly so as to duck under 20 lbs with a Specialized Romin Evo saddle and Vuelta Corsa Lite wheelset that are on my Peloton, but I'd be back to reeeally feeling the road's imperfections. And I don't want to play the weight weenie game (again), though I always could if I was bored/in the mood. For now though I am enjoying the ride quality I have tuned (a nice 'taut' feeling) and am an immediate fan of these bikes, especially in the larger sizes. Made sure to ride it on a very rough and chewed up several block stretch of road on my way home tonight and it did as well as the best of my (humble) steel steeds--I would say better, even, but will have to try again at a higher speed.

The cantilevered stays are indeed a signature look and it didn't take me long to go, "these are cool." Dropout spacing was 127mm measured, and a 130m axle popped in with very little effort, almost laughably easy. Obviously newer aluminum at the high end is much lighter than this 3.0, and especially against same-sized steel frames, but there's less material to soak up vibration. So I'm more than happy to have the best of both worlds with little compromise (to me) in a heavier aluminum frame (yet lighter than steel) that doesn't turn into a Ryobi tiller (the ones with the motors mounted midway up the stalk) over crummy surfaces.
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
So I'm more than happy to have the best of both worlds with little compromise (to me) in a heavier aluminum frame (yet lighter than steel) that doesn't turn into a Ryobi tiller (the ones with the motors mounted midway up the stalk) over crummy surfaces.
Or they turn into dead feeling hunks of aluminum after a couple thousand work cycles -- then the thrill is gone and a person is re-considering steel
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Originally Posted by DMC707
Or they turn into dead feeling hunks of aluminum after a couple thousand work cycles -- then the thrill is gone and a person is re-considering steel
Well, then I shall certainly have quite the number of eligible backup rides should the C'dale fatigue during my stewardship of it.
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Or they turn into dead feeling hunks of aluminum after a couple thousand work cycles -- then the thrill is gone and a person is re-considering steel
What a myth. That's quite ridiculous, actually.
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Originally Posted by Chuckk
Yeah, that's not even a myth I've ever HEARD before!
Are we here for THE BIRTH OF A MYTH?
No myth - put enough miles on aluminum and the lively ride characteristics will go away, leaving you with a "dead" frame. I have a couple examples in my current livery
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I know its a strange pic but its all I have with the disc, this was a fun project.



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No myth - put enough miles on aluminum and the lively ride characteristics will go away, leaving you with a "dead" frame. I have a couple examples in my current livery
What does that look like on a molecular scale? What is a bicycles "work cycle" and how does a work cycle affect the molecular structure of an aluminum bike?
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Aluminum riding "lively" is a myth all it's own. Every one I've had beats the crap out of you and gets the job done by stiffness. Its the main reason I only ride C'dale mountain bikes for the most part. Fatter tires = smoother ride.,,,,BD
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