PDKL45

So I had an issue with a Specialized frame. The big S are coming to the party and are giving me a replacement frameset, which will be from a Roubaix Expert. This Gloss Carbon/Chameleon Purple/Metallic White Silver frameset.

The only Roubaix bikes offered as frameset options that I can see are S Works, though, and this is on a different level. Can anyone help me with putting a value on this Roubaix Expert frameset? As a frameset alone, I mean, rather than a complete bike.

Koyote

I'm not understanding why you are asking. Are you planning to sell the frame that they are giving you?

PDKL45

Probably. It is a replacement for a heavy steel touring bike with different axle standards, etc. My back isn't overly keen on road geometry either.

Basically I'm interested to see what people think it's worth. I am going to have to find a replacement frame to hang all my existing parts on--they're MTB and while decent, not really appropriate for a carbon road frame, not to mention thru-axles not matching my existing QR wheelset.

Edit to say I may trade it? Honestly, I don't know right now. I am just interested in a ballpark value so I know where to start any negotiations. I'm not out to make crazy money or anything, but I need a new, more appropriate frame for what I currently have. Thus I just really want an idea of what it is worth, so I can enter into buy/sell/trade/swap discussions with an idea of value.

surak

That's a last generation Roubaix frame, and unless you're getting the storage box, same fact 10r carbon as the Comp level. A bunch of us on BF got in on the sale they had on Comp Di2 Roubaixes before the intro of the current gen for less than the MSRP of the Expert non-Di2 Ultegra. So I would guess if you're selling it without the wheelset and drivetrain, maybe $1K? I like my Roubaix, but it's not anywhere as sought after as a last-gen Tarmac (SL6) or Venge frame, so whatever those are going for would be a generous upper-limit.

PDKL45

Hey thanks. It looks like it comes with a storage box?

Around $1K was about what I was thinking was reasonable as well.

PDKL45

The Pro's Closet has a used 2019 version of the same frame for close to $2,000. I'm assuming they go full pop retail on things, though.

https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...caApw-EALw_wcB

datlas 

You could search EBay or similar sites, look for “completed sales” to get a good idea.

blakcloud

That bike is $3600 US so the frame is easily worth around $2000. This notion that a brand new carbon frame from a reputable company is worth a grand is far off the mark. If the Pro's Closest can get almost two grand for a two year old used bike, you will have no problem getting more. Hope everything works out for you.

PDKL45

Thanks.​​​​​

It's certainly interesting. They are providing me with a 2018 frame, so it is slightly older, but it's still a very nice frame and will make someone a great endurance bike. A friend of mine was talking about how cool it would be built up as a long distance self-supported race bike, a la Trans Am.

surak

Could be off the mark, but I at least know the bike ain't worth $3600 except for desperate COVID-influenced buyers with more money than patience. I already explained that the exact same fact 10r frame on a Roubaix Comp with Di2 and not mechanical cost less than that, only difference is wheelset (Rovals that are ~100g lighter than DT Swiss, meh) and a storage box (second meh). Not to mention buying from Specialized gets you a warranty, or the Pro's Closet gets at least a 30-day guarantee. Then again, I've never thought the Pro's Closet had competitive prices on the vast majority of their offerings. Completed listings on eBay show that an authorized Specialized reseller getting $1500 on multiple sizes. Other than that, it's not exactly a hot item with lots of demand. S-Works would be a different matter.

The Roubaix frame is nice and comfy, but not ideal for ultra-endurance events as it has zero mounts of any kind. I was just chatting with another Roubaix owner planning to do a cross-country tour this year after getting fully vaccinated, and he's going with a Diverge for the fenders and rack. And again, it's not exactly sought-after the way the Tarmac or Venge frames are for people wanting to build up something, so expecting too much is going to lead to disappointment.

PDKL45

Trans Am race type racers usually use bags exclusively, it's fast light racing, not loaded touring. A small saddle bag, frame bag, gastank bag and handlebar roll is all people commonly use, and it was that type of racing my friend was talking about.

I'm not going to be disappointed, because while it's a useful benchmark, I don't need full retail. Someone is going to get an amazing deal on a Roubaix frameset, though. Probably in trade for what I actually want, but we'll see what happens.

jaxgtr

What is this at the base of the frame?

PDKL45

Apparently even Mike Sinyard has been known to refer to the MTB version as the "weed box," but I'm sure it's equally useful for a couple of gas canisters, some tire levers and a spare tube.

jaxgtr

I was thinking all the SWAT boxes were internal on the downtube, thanks for the insight.

PDKL45

I think you're right. Do you know the Path Podcast? The guys were talking about the MTB one there, that's where I picked that up.

surak

It's the storage box.