Cigarettes?
02-02-11, 07:34 PM
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02-02-11, 07:38 PM
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Marijuana legalization is going to happen, whether you think it is destructive or not...
The film rolls of propaganda you watched in school have been studied and falsified extensively. When it comes down to it both tobacco and alcohol (both legal) do far more damage, both short and long term. Once the govt figures out how to regulate and tax the market things are going to change. The recurring theme of this thread is clearly education, then moderation.
The film rolls of propaganda you watched in school have been studied and falsified extensively. When it comes down to it both tobacco and alcohol (both legal) do far more damage, both short and long term. Once the govt figures out how to regulate and tax the market things are going to change. The recurring theme of this thread is clearly education, then moderation.
I_Like_Bike - Go ahead bro. Keep drinking that poison. Ever heard the phrase, "If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is?" Zero calories has its price. I promise you, diet soda works against your metabolism and your general health. But don't take my word for it.
02-02-11, 07:45 PM
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02-02-11, 11:28 PM
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This thread needs more pics of Voodoo Donuts!
No bacon donuts, but some bacon jelly beans!
No bacon donuts, but some bacon jelly beans!
02-03-11, 04:31 AM
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Tell this to Snapperhead and all the other people who are suckers for anti-weed propaganda.
Please. Your average prescription drug is a thousand times more likely to kill you than marijuana. There is not one single case in the history of mankind of someone dieing from an overdose of marijuana. Cigarettes are proven harmful and deadly. Marijuana is proven to be a healing and beneficial substance. Hardly a "drug" IMO.
I_Like_Bike - Go ahead bro. Keep drinking that poison. Ever heard the phrase, "If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is?" Zero calories has its price. I promise you, diet soda works against your metabolism and your general health. But don't take my word for it.
Please. Your average prescription drug is a thousand times more likely to kill you than marijuana. There is not one single case in the history of mankind of someone dieing from an overdose of marijuana. Cigarettes are proven harmful and deadly. Marijuana is proven to be a healing and beneficial substance. Hardly a "drug" IMO.
I_Like_Bike - Go ahead bro. Keep drinking that poison. Ever heard the phrase, "If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is?" Zero calories has its price. I promise you, diet soda works against your metabolism and your general health. But don't take my word for it.
02-03-11, 05:01 AM
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quit smoke'n weed 7 years ago, alcohol 1 year 2 month ago, and yep still smoke and go to the gym on the daily. All my riding and running friends give me ship about it still!
02-03-11, 07:18 AM
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You said "No matter how you slice it, they're both addictions and not habits." That's flat out wrong. Second, more people get hooked on tobacco than on alcohol. Tobacco is one of the most addictive things on the planet. That's not the case with alcohol where it comes down to genetic or social predisposition.
02-03-11, 07:42 AM
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You're right, only really smart people smoke weed.
The long and short of it is you have an opinion and I have an opinion. I don't care HOW or WHY you've formed that opinion nor will I ever ask for proof. Also, I don't need a study or some government agency to tell me that inhaling smoke into my body or ingesting some drug is bad for me. Justify it any way you want, but at least be honest.
02-03-11, 09:01 AM
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The long and short of it is you have an opinion and I have an opinion. I don't care HOW or WHY you've formed that opinion nor will I ever ask for proof. Also, I don't need a study or some government agency to tell me that inhaling smoke into my body or ingesting some drug is bad for me. Justify it any way you want, but at least be honest.
And for those of you dispensing medical advice to those of us who enjoy a fine tobacco product once in a while, take a look at your life and figure out where your level of unhealthy is and take care of that. If you eat too much bacon, or cheese, or if you spend too much time with your hand, have too many cats, whatever it is, realize that you also need some work. Your concern is appreciated, your condescension is not.
02-03-11, 09:31 AM
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Yes - at the point you become hooked on either drinking or smoking it's not a habit - it's an addiction. How is that "flat out wrong"? My point is not any comparison between the two beyond the remorse that addicts tend to express about one or the other. Hopefully this clears things up for you.
02-03-11, 10:16 AM
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The point one becomes hooked on smoking is usually a couple of packs in. It's like saying there is recreational meth usage. You wrote " No matter how you slice it, they're both addictions and not habits." Which means drinking and smoking are addictions. That isn't the case. One only gets hooked on drinking if they're an alcoholic. Very few folks who smoke aren't hooked on that particular level of smoking. They are addicted.
02-03-11, 10:23 AM
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This thread is about guilty pleasures, and as the Road Forum does without fail, it morphs into a contentious battle that has little to do with the topic. If you smoke weed, say you do and let's get on to the next post.
And for those of you dispensing medical advice to those of us who enjoy a fine tobacco product once in a while, take a look at your life and figure out where your level of unhealthy is and take care of that. If you eat too much bacon, or cheese, or if you spend too much time with your hand, have too many cats, whatever it is, realize that you also need some work. Your concern is appreciated, your condescension is not.
02-03-11, 10:39 AM
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And for those of you dispensing medical advice to those of us who enjoy a fine tobacco product once in a while, take a look at your life and figure out where your level of unhealthy is and take care of that. If you eat too much bacon, or cheese, or if you spend too much time with your hand, have too many cats, whatever it is, realize that you also need some work. Your concern is appreciated, your condescension is not.
There's one thing I've learned from posting on several boards over the years. If you don't want to be judged, don't post.
02-03-11, 10:45 AM
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I've been a drinker/smoker/drug user for 25+yrs (gave up most of it last year) and almost everyone I know started as occasional smokers, drinkers, and drug users. Some end up taking it much further than others and become full-blown addicts of one or all of them. You can turn yourself into an alcoholic - you don't have to have some predisposition for it. Enough constant use can create a physical and psychological addiction - just like with cigarettes and drugs. To say you're hooked on cigarettes after your first couple of packs is just plain wrong.
02-03-11, 10:52 AM
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I know it's nasty and I'm trying to quit but I like a dip of snuff.
02-03-11, 08:42 PM
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Chew - 3 to 4 cans of skoal per week. One of the first things I do after a long bike ride is throw a chew in, yummy. yea yea I know it causes mouth cancer so call me stupid. (I am) My wife used to hide it from me but now she sorta accepts it. Kids are gone so no more crap from them. Oh once every couple months or so a few hits of some super home grown sensimilla. My stuff rocks, only for my personal consumption though.
04-20-11, 08:17 PM
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I hate cigarettes! I refuse to be around them, and I have a sign in my living room that says "Breathing Area No Smoking Please".
My climbing sucks enough as it is. I'm not going to ruin my lungs and make it even worse.
My climbing sucks enough as it is. I'm not going to ruin my lungs and make it even worse.
04-20-11, 08:58 PM
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No more alcohol, but yes on cigs. Quitting drinking was the single best thing I did for my health. Yes, quitting the cigs will help too, but he drinking was what was killing me. I have been to no less than 10 funerals in 15 years, all died from drinking-related illness. Not one was from cancer or a smoking-related illness. Smoking may have contributed, but not the main cause.
How is it that Lemmy is still alive? Two bottles of Jack Daniels' and two packs a day.
How is it that Lemmy is still alive? Two bottles of Jack Daniels' and two packs a day.