MiloFrance

https://www.troc-velo.com/velo-route...-1-2152798.htm

It's not a Raleigh...

distincthead

That's a big ol' frame. Love it.

juvela

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Dommage you did not find it last month.

Would have fit right in with noglider's multi-coloured thread...


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MiloFrance

Indeed!
It's not often I see something and know what it is, and the expertise here astounds me, so feeling slightly pleased with myself. CYFAC

My CYFAC built MaxiSports/Castorama


The Troc bike. Initials are the builder, GH or HG

Giuanin

It is a Raleigh, and I think I know exactly what it is.

Giuanin

895

I come back tomorrow.

MiloFrance

So enlighten me... the one in my pic with 1/89 as the date code has been confirmed as a Cyfac built Castorama bike, by Cyfac

MiloFrance

So I've done a bit more research, and I'm now convinced.

Giuanin

My Raleigh 1991 in 1993.

895

1991

team ACBB - Compta France - Reynolds - Raleigh

HC = Claus Michael Holm Claus Michael Holm



So for

894

1991

team ACBB - Compta France - Reynolds - Raleigh

HG = Gilles Hoffmann


Those Raleigh frame where made by Francis Quillon (Cyfac), the bill was paid by Polymark (Raleigh & Reynolds importer for France) as for the Systčme U & Castorama team bikes.

Giuanin

1989 Gilles Hoffmann Prix du Conseil Général du Val d'Oise


For 289, the magnificent planetarium/Castorama livery is a repaint, it appear in 1992.

It is possibly:

1989

team Antony Berny Cycliste - Systčme U - Raleigh

HG = Gilles Hoffmann

Giuanin

Maybe you can found some informations on the steerer fork.

Here a remain of ACBB on 895.

MiloFrance

So it is CYFAC, That's what I was convinced of! Thank you, I've been wondering who my MaxiSport was made for...

MiloFrance

However...
The fork, although painted to match, and with a nice Columbus decal has a different serial. Who is MP (or PM)?

MiloFrance

It's not coming to me
He had a quick look at sending it and the first price scared him, €1000. I tried to persuade him but now he's got someone else going to see it. Maybe they're on the forum...

Giuanin

For MP , it is first the name and then the forename.
In 1992, Francis Quillon/Cyfac built approximately 650 frames.
No idea for this MP, that year, no MP in the team Castorama & ACBB was with Basso bikes.

MiloFrance

The boss at Cyfac told me that if the frame was not built for a specific rider, it was the builders initials.

Giuanin

To my knowledge at this time, 1991/1992, Francis Quillon was a subcontractor and only built custom frames. There are many examples where the two letters correspond to a rider.
He made me a custom frame in 1998 and Cyfac did not exist as a bike brand, he did not buid for particular customers.
He made me an other one in 2001/2002 and Cyfac existed as a brand. Between 1998 and 2001 there was a new numbering.
On none of these custom frames there are any initials.
I presume that the bike brand Cyfac and the new numbering start in 2000 with the team Jean Delatour - Cyfac.




My 1998 Cyfac was anonimous, no decals.


As 894 and 895 are in alphabetical order, the initial/serial numbers for the ACBB frames should be approximately:

AF around 877

BP

BT

BJ

CG

CD

CD

CJ

EL

EL

FP

FR

FM

GC

GG

GJ

HS

HG 894

HC 895

LP

LP

PF

PO

PT

SJ

SM

UL

VP around 904

MiloFrance

I feel the need to fill some of those numbers in. Let the search commence... Thank you Giuanin, this kind of stuff fascinates me.

894 went to a 'collector' apparently so may be hidden in a garage or restored and reappear at some point, who knows.