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Old 02-12-13, 07:39 PM
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How much to increase milage at a time

Do to being out of shape and the bad weather I started out doing a mile (cold seems to make it harder to breath right)if I got time I would do it more than once a day. Then I upped it to 1 1/2 then 2 and tonight 2 1/2 Is gaining 1/2 to a mile a week enough ? I have also been working out the bugs in my bikes too
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There's not any set rule. It'll depend on your condition, your terrain, weather, etc. It'll also depend on what limits your range- legs or lung/heart or saddle comfort or what. But generally, if you feel good, go for it, if you're getting too out of breath, slow down or pick a more level course. If your legs are the limiting factor, try lower gears and spinning faster, or raising the seat if that helps.
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At this point don't think mileage, go for saddle time. After you get to where you can ride for an hour at a time, then you can start paying attention to miles or speed. I find that in the cold it takes me longer to get in a good balance of cadence and breathing than when it is warm, so give it some more time. The first ten miles always feel the worst to me, then everything starts to get right.
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General rule of thumb is to increase milage by 10% per week. Are you experiencing any pain or discomfort after your rides? If not you might want to push a little further.
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There are a lot of 'rules of thumb' like 10% a week or 50% for a single ride. Key is don't make yourself so miserable you want to quit.

I think a good strategy is to ride a particular route repeatedly until it becomes easy, like every other day for a week or two, then increase that distance by no more than 50%. That's the rule of thumb I use when working with youth groups, and it has worked well.

Rest days are important also, particularly when you've upped the distance.
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Ignore rules or guidelines for now.

ride every chance you can, go as far (long) as you can. Have fun. Do it again tomorrow. Push very now and again to see what's actually possible. Have fun.
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Originally Posted by vesteroid
Ignore rules or guidelines for now.

ride every chance you can, go as far (long) as you can. Have fun. Do it again tomorrow. Push very now and again to see what's actually possible. Have fun.
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this isn't running, here there aren't rules. Just go ride for an hour, see how far you go. If worried do laps around the block many times. Then pick bigger blocks.
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Originally Posted by vesteroid
Ignore rules or guidelines for now.

ride every chance you can, go as far (long) as you can. Have fun. Do it again tomorrow. Push very now and again to see what's actually possible. Have fun.
Because this is such sensible advice I will echo it too!

Plumberroy, you mentioned working out bugs in your bikes too. What kind of bugs? Is it fit issue or mechanical issues? Fit problem really held me back when I was starting and even though I got lots of good suggestions online, I did not solve the fit issues until I actually went and had a professional help me.
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Your legs will tell you how fast to proceed.
My rule of the thumb is-
Just enough so that you very slightly feel it in your legs and still want to do a bit more the next day.
Don't cause yourself enough discomfort that it isn't fun. You might try adding another block or 2 per day.
Just make sure to keep the smile on your face.
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When I got back on the bike after a couple of years not riding, I upped the mileage quickly when I began (Summer 2011). I started off with a 2 mile ride, then 3, 5, 8, 12 for the following rides. Held at a 12 mile loop for a while because it was a convenient route, with occasional 20+ miles rides. But I had done such riding before and my body knew the routine. If you haven't done such riding before, I suggest upping it at a modest amount, as the others have suggested. Don't ever push yourself to the point where you stop enjoying it. (Though, believe it or not, there comes a point where you actually enjoy pushing yourself hard and look forward to steep hills)

My usual short evening ride these days is 20-25 miles, with 40+ rides most weekends.
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Originally Posted by vesteroid
Ignore rules or guidelines for now.

ride every chance you can, go as far (long) as you can. Have fun. Do it again tomorrow. Push very now and again to see what's actually possible. Have fun.
What he said. Saddle time and not miles is what counts.
If I go back and look at my spreadsheet that I kept I didn't go by any 10% rule. The first 2 weeks;

10 miles (1 hr 8 min)
rest (Walking)
10 miles
rest (Walking)
29 miles
10 miles
rest (walking)
25 miles
rest (walking)
12 miles
40 miles (4 hr 26 min... OUCH a 9 mph avg!!!)
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5 months later a solo unsupported 'what the hack lets try it' century in 7 hr 19 min

271 hours (2465 miles) in that first 6 months. I never thought I'd put that many miles on a bike in a year (2011)
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Push hard, have fun. If it stops being fun you went to far.

One thing I did do is when my legs started hurting for more than one day I'd take a few days off until all discomfort stopped. This worked out better than pushing through the discomfort. I was 53 when I started so age might have played a roll in recovery time.
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Great job getting out there every day or more. That is work when its cold. All progress is progress, and is building your fitness. In a couple weeks, if a really nice weather day comes along, maybe you will decide to suddenly add a bit more, and go for a longer ride, and you will have build up some base miles to do it.
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Actually jsigone there are 91 rules, #5 being the most versed. This is of course in jest on my part.....or is it. lol

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Originally Posted by vesteroid
Ignore rules or guidelines for now.

ride every chance you can, go as far (long) as you can. Have fun. Do it again tomorrow. Push very now and again to see what's actually possible. Have fun.
That's it. If it's not fun you'll stop doing it and then whatever you've done to date ends up wasted.

If you can find something to give you a reason to strike out a little further at a time that can be a good thing. For me I used a bike to go geocaching beyond normal walking range of home - and as I had to go further and further to find the ones I hadn't already found so my endurance built up without me really noticing.

Now I don't go geocaching all that much but every once in a while will pick on one or two as targets, as a way of taking in a specific ride and giving me a reason not to wimp out if it gets a bit tough along the way.
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Originally Posted by goldfinch
Because this is such sensible advice I will echo it too!

Plumberroy, you mentioned working out bugs in your bikes too. What kind of bugs? Is it fit issue or mechanical issues? Fit problem really held me back when I was starting and even though I got lots of good suggestions online, I did not solve the fit issues until I actually went and had a professional help me.
My old bike wasn't shifting quite right. I posted over on the vintage questions area , most where not imprssed with it I had it checked out at a local bike shop he declared it safe and found me a used set of shifters and a 6 speed free wheel . it is running fine now. I bought a surly steamroller of craigslist like new bike. I am dialing in seat and handlebars. I have a little bigger freewheel on order etc. . I have an old concord freedom twelve that I changed into a single speed I am playing with getting the right cog on it etc.
I didn't get out today got hit in the parking lot scratched my car had to run for meds and we got 1" or so of snow
Thanks for all the reply's I love to ride just have to force myself to make time
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Actually jsigone there are 91 rules, #5 being the most versed. This is of course in jest on my part.....or is it. lol

https://www.velominati.com/the-rules/
o I'm aware of these rules and don't comply to #62 (watching painted lines is boring compared to my MTB and riding singletracks)
And admit I'm a common user of rule #10 and #20
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stick with it long enough and one day you are gonna look back and laugh at how you started with only 1 mile and upped it to 2 and worried if making the jump to 4 was too much too soon!
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I also advise gradual increases in time on the bike. Minimize coasting. Focus later on miles/speed/hills. I like the 10% rule. I've broken it, and had some nasty overuse injuries requiring complete rest from the bike to heal.

Increasing your bike time is more than just improving your cardio system and leg strength/stamina.
You are also teaching your body how to handle heat, how to fuel and hydrate while exercising; you're getting your butt accustomed to the saddle, building up your posture and stabilizing muscles, toughening up your joints.
You may find that some gear/attire that is fine for 2 mile rides is uncomfortable at 10 miles, miserable at 30, and unbearable at 50.
It's much more pleasant to learn these on shorter rides.
There is also some psychological toughening and learning going on too.
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lost me at rule #11
Small victory today the local bike/walking path is a vetrans park there is parking at the top along the road for vets and seniors the rest have to park in the lower lot and walk up stairs or a ramp. First ride three weeks ago it was all I could do to make the ramp on my raleigh 15 speed in lowest gearing . I usually ride along the road to the high lots and come down the ramp to cross at the light . tonight a road my old single speed out for a test . it was close to dark so I went to the lower lot to keep off the main road in low vis jacket. I figured I would charge the ramp pedal as high as possible walk the rest . When I topped the ramp I was still on the bike so I am making gains
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As many mentioned there are rules of no more than 10% increase a week. I felt (yes past tense) the same as some on here that you should ignore that - man up and just ride. So I bought a new road bike (upgraded off of a hybrid) and so fell in love that I went from riding 100 miles a week to 200 miles a week. I also broke another rule about modifying your own fit. Due to breaking these two rules I fell victim to "Handlebar Palsy" (where you have nerve damage in your hand that can be anything from numbness to losing use/control of fingers). This started with just numbness and I basically ignored it and kept pushing - in fact pushing harder. This lead to me loosing use of my pinkie which then started concerns and a trip to a sports doctor. The answer was to "stay off the bike for at least 2 weeks".

So I hope that someone can learn from my stupid mistakes and not just ignore these rules of thumbs. They are there becuase others have preceeded us and learned lessons that can help as we try to follow in their footsteps.
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Unless the weather is just to bad I try to ride a little every day. My legs reminded me all day today of the hill yesterday, so I only did 1 1/2 miles today but I did ride . beside that it is fricken cold today
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As many mentioned there are rules of no more than 10% increase a week. I felt (yes past tense) the same as some on here that you should ignore that - man up and just ride. So I bought a new road bike (upgraded off of a hybrid) and so fell in love that I went from riding 100 miles a week to 200 miles a week. I also broke another rule about modifying your own fit. Due to breaking these two rules I fell victim to "Handlebar Palsy" (where you have nerve damage in your hand that can be anything from numbness to losing use/control of fingers). This started with just numbness and I basically ignored it and kept pushing - in fact pushing harder. This lead to me loosing use of my pinkie which then started concerns and a trip to a sports doctor. The answer was to "stay off the bike for at least 2 weeks".

So I hope that someone can learn from my stupid mistakes and not just ignore these rules of thumbs. They are there becuase others have preceeded us and learned lessons that can help as we try to follow in their footsteps.
Handlebar palsy was also the major injury I got from increasing my mileage too fast.
Both hands were affected but my left hand was so bad I couldn't button clothes, operate a zipper, hold a dining utensil, use a pen, twist a doorknob or use a key.
I took 2 weeks off the bike to regain use of my hands for daily living. 3 years later a nerve conduction study showed minor but permanent damage both hands.
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I gave the 10% increase based on a lot of posts here and geared towards non active people becoming first time cyclists. Going from riding the couch to a bike is a huge jump in activity and I want people to start and stay riding not start and stop from injury or realization that this lifestyle is hard! If you we're active but a Clyde like myself, sure bump it up quicker. Personally I went from 10k to 15 to 30 then joined a club and first group ride was 116k, I thought I was going to die! I was likely lucky to not injure myself but I kept coming back for more pain. I truly believe push your body to the limit but listen to it.
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