Shimano RSX Shifters on Trek 1220
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Shimano RSX Shifters on Trek 1220
I am looking to purchase a used Trek 1220 (circa 1999) with Shimano RSX Dual control shifters/brake levers. Apparently the shifters are not moving either the front or rear derailleur. Do you think I would be able to repair these shifters, or what type of new shifters would be compatible with the crank set? I'm not able to find much on ebay.. I'm trying to keep things within a very low budget for my wife who is just getting into road cycling. Thanks for the help.
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I would say there is a fair chance that they still work and it is just old gummed up grease stopping them from moving. I've picked up 3 non shifting RSX equipped bikes for cheap and with a little cleaning and some fresh lube the shifters all work fine.
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Either the shifters are worn out, gummed up or the cables are improperly adjusted. If the shifters are worn out or broken, there are no repair parts available. If they are gummed up, solvent washing and relubing with light oil should make them work again. Unless this is a very low cost purchase or you are sure an adjustment will fix it, find a different bike.
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RJ the bike guy has some youtubes on these.
What speed? https://www.randombikeparts.com/prod...BoCLm4QAvD_BwE
What speed? https://www.randombikeparts.com/prod...BoCLm4QAvD_BwE
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They sell some pretty cheap sets of 7 speed sti's now, but you can usually get these to work with just a flush.
Microshift 7 Speed Road Levers | Jenson USA
Microshift 7 Speed Road Levers | Jenson USA
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Start by removing the old cables. The heads break in Shimano shifters all the time.
Alcohol followed by spray lube should loosen them up.
Microshift brifters work well.
Alcohol followed by spray lube should loosen them up.
Microshift brifters work well.
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I am looking to purchase a used Trek 1220 (circa 1999) with Shimano RSX Dual control shifters/brake levers. Apparently the shifters are not moving either the front or rear derailleur. Do you think I would be able to repair these shifters, or what type of new shifters would be compatible with the crank set? I'm not able to find much on ebay.. I'm trying to keep things within a very low budget for my wife who is just getting into road cycling. Thanks for the help.
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- Pull the shifter lever backward as if you are braking and generously spray the WD40 into the shifter body internals.
- Try shifting the derailleur up and down several times.
- If the derailleur still doesn't move, try more WD40.
If the above "de-gumming" doesn't work, then start thinking about replacing the cables and cable housings.
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I've also had a couple of RSX's where the shifter was 'dry-fired' too many times and fouled the cable Cycling the levers while the cranks aren't roatating, and the head of the cable got out of the pulley, and wedged between the shifter body and the internal mechanism.
The RSX has the reputation for being a pretty robust unit, more likely to need service than replacement.
The RSX has the reputation for being a pretty robust unit, more likely to need service than replacement.
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Thank you for replying, the suggestions were helpful. I managed to free up the shifters with de-greaser. The front ring shifter is still difficult to shift, in particular you need to apply a lot of force to the shifter to take the chain from the smaller rings to the larger rings. Are they ways to make this easier? Should I now put some fresh lithium grease into the shifter?
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Thank you for replying, the suggestions were helpful. I managed to free up the shifters with de-greaser. The front ring shifter is still difficult to shift, in particular you need to apply a lot of force to the shifter to take the chain from the smaller rings to the larger rings. Are they ways to make this easier? Should I now put some fresh lithium grease into the shifter?
Use a spray lube or drip lube. Don't use lithium grease as it reacts with WD40, which might already be in there or might get used some day.
Is the front derailleur moving smoothly, or does it need oil?
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That's an issue with the first gen under cable routed STI's, (5700, 6700 & 7900), the previous and next gen's weren't affected by this in the same way, as in no one ever seemed to mention it as an issue before they went to that design.
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Been working in shops since 1990. It absolutely has always been an issue for Shimano STI. I don't know how many jammed shifters I've seen or fixed. Hundreds.
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Thought back to this thread today when a fellow rider was complaining about tough front shifting. His bike had a sticky residue around the bottle cage and when I flipped it over, the guides were all gummed up, gatoraide? Rinsed it off with water and it was good to go.
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As an update to this: I applied some Brakeleen inside the shifter and worked them back and forth for a while, then applied a fresh application of lithium grease. The bike has seen about 200 miles after this and the right shifter seems to be OK (not good, just OK), while the left shifter is still unreliable. Any other ideas for for the left shifter? It seems like I need to apply a ton of force to shift the left shifter up (from middle ring to big ring or small ring to middle ring) and then to shift in general, I need to wiggle the shifter back and forth a few times. Debating either taking off the shifters and trying an ultrasonic clean or potentially looking to replace the left shifter only if I can find something cheap on ebay.
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As an update to this: I applied some Brakeleen inside the shifter and worked them back and forth for a while, then applied a fresh application of lithium grease. The bike has seen about 200 miles after this and the right shifter seems to be OK (not good, just OK), while the left shifter is still unreliable. Any other ideas for for the left shifter? It seems like I need to apply a ton of force to shift the left shifter up (from middle ring to big ring or small ring to middle ring) and then to shift in general, I need to wiggle the shifter back and forth a few times. Debating either taking off the shifters and trying an ultrasonic clean or potentially looking to replace the left shifter only if I can find something cheap on ebay.