Restarting my velo
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Restarting my velo
I double-checked the weight of my velo frame, discovered that the scale I was using looped COMPLETELY around, and that the frame thus far probably weighed over 300 lbs. No wonder I could barely lift it.
So I'm abandoning that frame and restarting from scratch.
One thing I want to do before I build anything is get the stuff I can't build organized first, so I can work with what I do build. So, first off--does anyone know where I can get a good recumbent seat?
Also, is it okay to post a link to the page that has the design (which is right now a work in progress)?
So I'm abandoning that frame and restarting from scratch.
One thing I want to do before I build anything is get the stuff I can't build organized first, so I can work with what I do build. So, first off--does anyone know where I can get a good recumbent seat?
Also, is it okay to post a link to the page that has the design (which is right now a work in progress)?
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A link is fine
Google search returns many hits for "recumbent seats" Not sure about Canada though.
Google search returns many hits for "recumbent seats" Not sure about Canada though.
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The simple solution is to buy a used recumbent off Craig's List/ebay for it's seat. Then resell the rest to recoup as much as possible, or keep for your projects. There's a few recumbent specific shops out there too. If you were in southern Ontario The Bicycle Man in Alford Station NY would b e only a few hours away.
Years ago Captain Dan Henry used up turned drop bars with a fabric sling across the "drops" as a seat. The commercial version was called "the Bummer" IIRC. Another drop bar located against the back served on his home made recumbent Andy
Years ago Captain Dan Henry used up turned drop bars with a fabric sling across the "drops" as a seat. The commercial version was called "the Bummer" IIRC. Another drop bar located against the back served on his home made recumbent Andy
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The simple solution is to buy a used recumbent off Craig's List/ebay for it's seat. Then resell the rest to recoup as much as possible, or keep for your projects. There's a few recumbent specific shops out there too. If you were in southern Ontario The Bicycle Man in Alford Station NY would b e only a few hours away.
Years ago Captain Dan Henry used up turned drop bars with a fabric sling across the "drops" as a seat. The commercial version was called "the Bummer" IIRC. Another drop bar located against the back served on his home made recumbent Andy
Years ago Captain Dan Henry used up turned drop bars with a fabric sling across the "drops" as a seat. The commercial version was called "the Bummer" IIRC. Another drop bar located against the back served on his home made recumbent Andy
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I saw seats for very little money.
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the design principle here should be KISS Keep It Simple Silly
these maybe be of interest
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weight...... too much, IIRC from the past this thing has been a beast in terms of weight with lots of complexity with supsention etc. Build it light and use big tires....avoid complexity
the design principle here should be KISS Keep It Simple Silly
these maybe be of interest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k22CBtPuw6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZWC1PeReA
the design principle here should be KISS Keep It Simple Silly
these maybe be of interest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k22CBtPuw6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyZWC1PeReA
Those were indeed interesting. I'm seriously simplifying the rear suspension (a simple leaf spring setup). The issue I see with a LOT of velomobiles is they're too small--I need something I can toss my toolbox or saxophone, or groceries (or groceries AND saxophone) in the back. I do busking, so I do want to be able to carry my instruments around without them getting damaged (including rained on or bumped around.)
Though I didn't realize there are axles strong enough to be supported from only one side.
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Those were indeed interesting. I'm seriously simplifying the rear suspension (a simple leaf spring setup). The issue I see with a LOT of velomobiles is they're too small--I need something I can toss my toolbox or saxophone, or groceries (or groceries AND saxophone) in the back. I do busking, so I do want to be able to carry my instruments around without them getting damaged (including rained on or bumped around.)
Though I didn't realize there are axles strong enough to be supported from only one side.
Though I didn't realize there are axles strong enough to be supported from only one side.
consider for your needs a bike/or trike and a trailer..... you can handle more weight pulling a trailer than loaded on a single velo and at lighter fixed weight
https://www.aosom.com/item/aosom-wan...hoCHrcQAvD_BwE
https://www.rei.com/c/bike-trailers-for-cargo
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I would start with a trike and just build a shell first. That's what most velo home builders do, for good reason.
Also, there is a whole specific forum for homebuilders on bentrider.com that has a lot of people with experience specifically with trikes and velos if you want a lot of good advice.
Also, there is a whole specific forum for homebuilders on bentrider.com that has a lot of people with experience specifically with trikes and velos if you want a lot of good advice.
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... A pedal-powered Reliant Robin is not what I had in mind. More seriously, trikes make me feel a little nervous, which is why I'm building a quad.
Also, I am quite portly, to put it mildlly, and a lot of these velos look pretty flimsy to me.
One last thing--this video shows why I'm adding suspension:
Note where he mentions a broken frame!
Also, I am quite portly, to put it mildlly, and a lot of these velos look pretty flimsy to me.
One last thing--this video shows why I'm adding suspension:
Note where he mentions a broken frame!
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... A pedal-powered Reliant Robin is not what I had in mind. More seriously, trikes make me feel a little nervous, which is why I'm building a quad.
Also, I am quite portly, to put it mildlly, and a lot of these velos look pretty flimsy to me.
Note where he mentions a broken frame!
Also, I am quite portly, to put it mildlly, and a lot of these velos look pretty flimsy to me.
Note where he mentions a broken frame!
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Yes if you make the frame to wheel/axle connection solid. The cheapest way to reduce vibration is run bigger tires with lower pressure ie 2 inch mtb tires, another put some kind of elastomer betwen the frame and axles to absorb the bumps. If you want springs consider using low end mtb springs and shocks with an independent suspension, Google 4 wheel off road bicycles.
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I've been doing up a page that's somewhat of a blueprint for what I have in mind.
This is what I've got thus far. CarCycle Design
I will fully admit it's not the most well-designed, or lightest frame, but I don't have access to plastic moulding or a wind tunnel, and like I've said before, I'm definately on the hefty side, so I need something sturdy and stable
UPDATE: Or is my issue here simply underestimating how strong steel is?
This is what I've got thus far. CarCycle Design
I will fully admit it's not the most well-designed, or lightest frame, but I don't have access to plastic moulding or a wind tunnel, and like I've said before, I'm definately on the hefty side, so I need something sturdy and stable
UPDATE: Or is my issue here simply underestimating how strong steel is?
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