Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
Reload this Page >

READ FIRST - C&V Valuations Forum Guidelines

Notices
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

READ FIRST - C&V Valuations Forum Guidelines

Old 02-13-09, 11:36 AM
  #26  
cudak888 
www.theheadbadge.com
 
cudak888's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,496

Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com

Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2401 Post(s)
Liked 4,350 Times in 2,075 Posts
That's another thing - no valuations with "time limits" imposed by the original poster. Those should be immidiately locked.

-Kurt
__________________












cudak888 is offline  
Old 01-06-10, 11:42 AM
  #27  
atoms
Señor Member
 
atoms's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 179

Bikes: '86 Voyageur, '82 Voyageur SP FOR SALE, '88 Le Tour fixed Townie, 2011 Diamondback Overdrive 29er

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by cudak888
I propose that we add a picture requirement for all threads here. Too many clueless idiots have been popping up, asking for valuations based on absolutely vague descriptions and no photos. Such threads serve only to clutter the forum and waste the time of whoever responds to it trying to help.

-Kurt
Along these lines I would like to at least strongly encourage posters to included text and if possible, pics from craigslist ads instead of just the link to the ad. The ad will be gone soon enough and the thread becomes a lot less useful to future readers if the object of discussion is a mystery.
atoms is offline  
Old 06-10-10, 07:24 PM
  #28  
cudak888 
www.theheadbadge.com
 
cudak888's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,496

Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com

Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2401 Post(s)
Liked 4,350 Times in 2,075 Posts
How about re-titling this forum "Bicycle Appraisals and Inquiries," dropping the "C&V?" Seeing that quite a few people don't seem to appriciate the fact that this forum exists for C&V valuations, why not just let them run hog wild in the first place?

-Kurt
__________________












cudak888 is offline  
Old 06-10-10, 09:02 PM
  #29  
cb400bill
Forum Moderator
 
cb400bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Kalamazoo MI
Posts: 21,321

Bikes: Fuji SL2.1 Carbon Di2 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 4 Trek Checkpoint ALR-5 Viscount Aerospace Pro Colnago Classic Rabobank Schwinn Waterford PMount Raleigh C50 Cromoly Hybrid Legnano Tipo Roma Pista

Mentioned: 58 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3059 Post(s)
Liked 6,377 Times in 3,690 Posts
Is there something we can do to make the Appraisal section stand out more? Larger text with more bold print?

I am getting tired of reporting the wayward posts so the moderators can move them.
__________________












cb400bill is offline  
Old 06-10-10, 09:12 PM
  #30  
cudak888 
www.theheadbadge.com
 
cudak888's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,496

Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com

Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2401 Post(s)
Liked 4,350 Times in 2,075 Posts
Originally Posted by cb400bill
I am getting tired of reporting the wayward posts so the moderators can move them.
You, and everyone else. The subforum already stands out on top of the forum as if it were a bright orange traffic cone. If misplaced valuations were fodder for the Fail Blog, we could supply them with a new entry every hour.

-Kurt
__________________












cudak888 is offline  
Old 01-01-11, 09:28 PM
  #31  
sillygolem
No Money and No Sense
 
sillygolem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Anderson, MO
Posts: 706
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Also, since there's a lot of newbs who post these some emphasis should be put on photographing the drive side and specifying the equipment on the bike. For example, a Free Spirit can be anything from a rebadged Huffy to a Puch with Campy grupos.
sillygolem is offline  
Old 04-13-11, 10:36 AM
  #32  
paulzinho
Still a newbie
 
paulzinho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 186

Bikes: 1990 Miyata Trailrunner, 1983 Cannondale, benotto 800, Miyata 610, Miyata 912, Trek 850

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Is there a difference when it come to asking for help to ID a bicycle make , model year? I'm not interested in knowing what it is work more like how good is it or where it falls in the lineup. Do these type of posts also go here in the C&V "what's it worth" forum?
paulzinho is offline  
Old 07-19-11, 08:10 AM
  #33  
unterhausen
Randomhead
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24,362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 3,664 Times in 2,497 Posts
Originally Posted by paulzinho
Is there a difference when it come to asking for help to ID a bicycle make , model year? I'm not interested in knowing what it is work more like how good is it or where it falls in the lineup. Do these type of posts also go here in the C&V "what's it worth" forum?
nobody answered this, but if there is no question of pricing then the thread should go into C&V. It does seem like after people get some answers in an "identify my bike" thread then the OP asks for value. The thing to do then is to start a thread in here.
unterhausen is offline  
Old 09-17-12, 05:27 PM
  #34  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,620

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 847 Post(s)
Liked 66 Times in 44 Posts
For those newbies looking to find out if their barn, basement, garage sale, or attic bike find is the equivalent of a winning megamillions lotto ticket or if you should be the next American Picker TV show host, don't be disappointed if the experts tell you it's not so special (particularly those vintage Peugeots that look so much like the $800 model but aren't . The collectible, rare bikes, are the premium models that were sold in very limited numbers to begin with.

But in any case, PLEASE don't forget to say thank you!
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 11-20-13, 05:20 PM
  #35  
CroMo Mike 
All Campy All The Time
 
CroMo Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 1,425

Bikes: Listed in my signature.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 175 Post(s)
Liked 114 Times in 63 Posts
I realize this whole "what's it worth?" forum is just for fun, but let me add to the discussion.

The answer to the question "what is something worth?" is the "fair market value." Fair market value is defined as the price at which something would likely change hands between a willing seller and a willing buyer, when neither is under any compulsion to enter into the transaction. Yes, it's an estimate, sometimes a wild guess. The estimate of value should assume that both parties are aware of all relevant facts, including, but not limited to, the location, the condition of the item, trends in the market, completed sales prices of comparable items, possible rises in market value in the future, etc., etc. Why is that so difficult? An appraiser is not required to have any personal interest in buying or selling the item to make that call. Real estate appraisers, insurance adjusters, and tax assessors do it all the time.

It would also be nice if the pictures hung around longer so others could view the thread in it entirety and possibly learn something from it. All the words in the world leaves one clueless when the pictures of the slightly rough Raleigh worth $150 are no longer there.
CroMo Mike is offline  
Old 05-11-16, 07:54 PM
  #36  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,620

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 847 Post(s)
Liked 66 Times in 44 Posts
I comment on many of the FMV questions that are posted in this "What's it worth?" thread. If I don't have experience with the bike due to age, make, or model, I tend to stay mute, for example most Bianchis and other Italian bikes. Sometimes if I don't have experience, but can draw parallels, due to groupset, age, other components, or similar tube set bikes, I use those as a guideline. I have no formal bike shop experience, but have been a buyer or seller many times over. Most of all, I do my homework, share my experiences, and follow bike pricing in several markets as I have bought or sold in NYC, NJ, MA, FL, OH, PA, and IN, both urban and rural markets.

Everyones comments are welcome, after all we have a constitutional right to free speech, but I think when a noob has a FMV question, they would be best served with objective advice and opinions formed from actual transactions, not airing your opinion or biases for or against a particular make or country of origin (well maybe you can jump all over Murrays and Huffys). It makes me cringe when I see the Cannondale, Trek, Allez, or Japanese bike fanboys get all excited and go well beyond giving an objective fmv assessment. Share your enthusiasm for a brand or bike, but give objective knowledge. IMHO, @RobbieTunes is an excellent brand ambassador for a certain bike line, I can't seem to recall which, but his knowledge and expertise are spot on, not colored by a pair of Miami Vice sunglasses.

Also, as on ebay, craigslist asking prices are meaningless for giving advice. Unless you are a party to the actual closed transaction, there is no basis for a FMV guestimate from asking prices.

Cheers,
Oddjob2
oddjob2 is offline  
Likes For oddjob2:
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sachens@aol.com
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
2
10-03-16 08:34 AM
EDJSALES
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
15
03-17-15 08:37 AM
randyjawa
Classic & Vintage
27
02-17-15 08:37 AM
racoonbeast
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
15
09-24-14 04:15 AM
ROADEAGL
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
5
12-25-11 11:56 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.