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Old 06-08-06, 02:10 PM
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Which compact carbon crank?

I'm trying to decide between two compact carbon cranks, replacing my too-short 170mm Ultegra 6600 crank with a 175mm compact. The candidates are either the FSA Carbon (K-Force or SLK) or the Truvative Rouleur Carbon. I can't find much info on the Truvative cranks, and the reviews on the FSA cranks are hit/miss. I do dig the polished spider/carbon arms on the Truvative, so cosmetically the Rouleur wins.

Anyway, I was just hoping some people could give me input on either of these cranks. Additionally if there were better options out there that were within reason ( < $350) price wise, please let me know.

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Huge weight difference between the FSA and the Truvativ.
SLKs have been more reliable.
 
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Originally Posted by DocRay
Huge weight difference between the FSA and the Truvativ.
SLKs have been more reliable.

Really? The FSA site specs the SLK compact as being 840g w/ BB, and the Truvative site states the Rouleur Carbon Giga-X pipe (minus BB) is 794g, and the BB can't weigh all that much. The K-Force, however, is rated at 780g w/ BB, so that is a significant difference.

What, specifically, has been occuring with the Truvative cranks? I've seen quite a few posts from people with SLK's that can't keep the fixing bolt tight longer than a ride or two, so if the Truvatives have even more problems than that, then I definately want to steer clear of them.
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If you are replacing a current model Ultegra, with the outboard BB, think about the Shimano R700. I believe that it is not much heavier than the carbon cranks, it would use your current BB, and you can get it for about $200 on ebay. Plus, it shifts really well with standard Shimano gear including your front der.

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Dude I just bought a Bontrager Compact on sale from our LBS for $150.00 it was supposed to origionally be $200.00 it is the crank of the Trek Equinox 9. It is a really nice compact double. I have been shifting a lot smoother since I got it. If I were you I would look at the high end Bontrager cranks, and you may even be able to snag yourself a deal.
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Ive had problems with stripped the self extraing crank bolt on a Truvativ Rouleur. Getting replacement parts specific for them isnt easy, and it requires tools that lbs's dont have (5/8" allen key). Avoid if possible, I won't be buying Truvativ again.
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Originally Posted by irablumberg
If you are replacing a current model Ultegra, with the outboard BB, think about the Shimano R700. I believe that it is not much heavier than the carbon cranks, it would use your current BB, and you can get it for about $200 on ebay. Plus, it shifts really well with standard Shimano gear including your front der.

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Big +1 on the R700.
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Originally Posted by dgaddes
Big +1 on the R700.
And a +++1 on top of that. I've tried both Bontrager/Truvativ and FSA, and the R700 is the best I've found. Reasonably light, ultra-crisp shifting, and better-feeling power transfer than anything carbon. I'm a huge carbon fan for most parts of a bike... frame, fork, bars, seatpost, even the stem if you like. Hell, I've even got carbon bottle cages, God help me. But not the cranks. For me, the R700 was the final piece of the puzzle in coming up with that "perfect" ride.
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How about a nice Campy Record?
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i like my k-force compact. It is stiff it rides well and it even looks good. Team CSC ride the non-compact version so you know you are getting a reliable quality product. Can be had for $300 US on ebay.
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I like my FSA SLKs ...
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Bontrager cranks have worked for me. No problems and with the Dura-Ace 10 speed set up it shifts flawless and it is durable and very eye appealings.
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Originally Posted by irablumberg
If you are replacing a current model Ultegra, with the outboard BB, think about the Shimano R700. I believe that it is not much heavier than the carbon cranks, it would use your current BB, and you can get it for about $200 on ebay. Plus, it shifts really well with standard Shimano gear including your front der.

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+1

I have the R700 and it was a "no brainer" to install myself--slips right in once you slide out the Ultegra crank.

Just don't forget that you'll have to drop the FD a little and maybe pull a couple links off of your chain--but you have to do this anyway no matter what compact crank you went with. Not having to fuss with the BB made it a very easy transition.
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Originally Posted by legstwelve
i like my k-force compact. It is stiff it rides well and it even looks good. Team CSC ride the non-compact version so you know you are getting a reliable quality product. Can be had for $300 US on ebay.
Actually, it seems they ride the compact:

https://www.cyclingnews.com/sponsors/fsa/2006/2006.php

A particularly interesting product from FSA to be launched for 2006 is the K-Force MegaExo Compact chainset. CSC's Ivan Basso used an FSA SLK Compact chainset with 50X36 chainring combination in last season's Giro d'Italia and Tour De France, riding to stage wins in the Giro and a superb runner-up spot behind seven time Tour winner Lance Armstrong in France. This marks the first time a rider using a compact chainset equipped bicycle has been on the podium in a Grand Tour.
FSA's K-Force MegaExo Compact chainset uses outboard bearings and an oversize spindle that is stiffer and lighter than most cranksets, which provides optimal power transfer for the rider. That's why Ivan Basso has already made the switch for 2006 to FSA's K-Force MegaExo Compact.
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Someone said it up there but the FSA is a better crank...well maybe not the crank it self but the rings...there have been a bunch of issues (poor finish and poor shifting) with the Truvativ cranks in general. I would go with the FSA or something else...Those Stronglight cranks look nice. I have the FSA SLK compact because they came stock on my Roubaix but other than maybe to save weight down the road I see no reason to change them.
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well no better reccomendation than that. Just have to get the soloist carbon to match.
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Originally Posted by Kelly.Fisher
Really? The FSA site specs the SLK compact as being 840g w/ BB, and the Truvative site states the Rouleur Carbon Giga-X pipe (minus BB) is 794g, and the BB can't weigh all that much. The K-Force, however, is rated at 780g w/ BB, so that is a significant difference.

What, specifically, has been occuring with the Truvative cranks? I've seen quite a few posts from people with SLK's that can't keep the fixing bolt tight longer than a ride or two, so if the Truvatives have even more problems than that, then I definately want to steer clear of them.

The BB is quite heavy... even the new external bearing ones.


I've had terrible luck with my FSA crank... both bearing problems (after doing a couple races in the rain) and issues with the chainring bolts and left crank arm coming loose. I've heard others complain a lot about FSA bearing issues... But a lot of others have really good luck with the FSA SLK and Mega Exo cranks. I had a Gossamer compact that gave me no complaints at all. YMMV of course.

I'd just wait till the new 2007 Campy Carbon cranks come out Or put in an order for the Zero Gravity cranks.... not carbon but stiffer and lighter.
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Originally Posted by briscoelab
The BB is quite heavy... even the new external bearing ones.


I've had terrible luck with my FSA crank... both bearing problems (after doing a couple races in the rain) and issues with the chainring bolts and left crank arm coming loose. I've heard others complain a lot about FSA bearing issues... But a lot of others have really good luck with the FSA SLK and Mega Exo cranks. I had a Gossamer compact that gave me no complaints at all. YMMV of course.

I'd just wait till the new 2007 Campy Carbon cranks come out Or put in an order for the Zero Gravity cranks.... not carbon but stiffer and lighter.
You know, I never really even considered Campy cranks, considering everything else on the bike is Shimano. I think I might just hold off a bit and see what comes out for next year. There appear to be too many problems with the current generation of cranks, and the R700's, from the photos I've seen, have the visual appearance of bottom of the line Shimano stuff. You'd think they could pretty up their cranks somewhat.
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Originally Posted by racingpain
Dude I just bought a Bontrager Compact on sale from our LBS for $150.00 it was supposed to origionally be $200.00 it is the crank of the Trek Equinox 9. It is a really nice compact double. I have been shifting a lot smoother since I got it. If I were you I would look at the high end Bontrager cranks, and you may even be able to snag yourself a deal.
Did you have to change out anything else? I'm looking to upgrade to a compact, have the triple that came on 04 Allez Triple.
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I'm having BB problems with my Truvativ. Same with a friend of mine. I personally won't buy another Truvativ crank.
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Originally Posted by Kelly.Fisher
, and the R700's, from the photos I've seen, have the visual appearance of bottom of the line Shimano stuff.
LOL! They are comparable to Ultegra-quality cranks and are not very far off of Dura-Ace! The construction is virtually the same, the likely difference being lower weight materials used in Dura-Ace.
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