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Old 02-14-18, 03:58 PM
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Upgrading from a 10 speed to an 11 speed grouppo

Do I have to change my rear wheel hub if I upgrade my Shimano 10-speed to an 11 speed?
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Old 02-14-18, 04:07 PM
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Depends.

And it's "gruppo", or "group", not "grouppo".
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if your wheel is running 10 speed with a spacer then it should work for 11 speed without the spacer.

11 speed hubs can do 8,9,10 with the spacer, but 8,9,10 speed hubs can't do 11 speed
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What specific rear wheel (or hub) do you have? If your current freehub body won’t take an 11-speed cassette, there might be an 11-speed compatible freehub body you can put on it, without having to replace the entire hub or wheel.
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There it is. Unless you provide full details about all the components on your current bike, nobody can possibly tell you whether you need to change your rear wheel. Changing a hub is usually more expensive than changing the wheel. Changing a hub is labour intensive
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If your wheel turns out to be 10 speed and you cannot get an 11sp freehub body, the 11-34 Ultegra level cassette will fit an 10 speed body, should a wide range cassette appeal to you.
Difficult to tell with the amount of info provided.
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Maybe. Depends.

I was able to just swap the freehub body on my Williams. $45, two hex wrenches, and 5 minutes. But I was super lucky. I was afraid I was going to have to buy a whole new wheel.
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MTB 10 spd hub will take an 11 spd MTB cassette. Road 10 spd Hub will not take an 11 spd road cassette.
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YouTube is your friend in this case. Search it and there are some great videos explaining the ins and outs of it. In a lot of cases it isn't too tough to accomplish.
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Yes, no, maybe, given that you have provided very limited info on what you currently have.

As a general rule, if you bike (specifically rear wheel, and talking about SRAM/Shimano freehubs only) is pre 2014, then NO, exceptions being Mavic; for Rolf and few others you may be able to swap the freehub for a 11 speed version, you need to research the freehub you have, if Shimano, NO

If 2014, probably NO, as 11 speed was a mid-year introduction

If post 2014 - maybe, check the model number of the hub, if it has a 1.85mm spacer when using a 10 speed cassette, then YES

If you are going to use a Shimano 11 speed 11-34 cassette CS-HG800, YES this will fit onto a 10 speed freehub

If you are getting SRAM XD/XDR, you need a compete new hub/wheel anyway, so NO

Would be doing the math on the cost of upgrading the groupset vs just buying a complete bike, as depending on age/condition, it may be cost effective to just replace the complete bike vs parts.

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and of course another questions is: why? what is benefit or need?
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
and of course another questions is: why? what is benefit or need?
With reasonable spacing for road riding having no two-tooth jumps before the 19 cog, 11 speed allows cassettes wider than 11-21, 12-23, and 13-25/13-26.
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