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Old 09-08-18, 04:38 PM
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Help me choose a derailleur

I want to replace the rear derailleur on my Diamond Back Ascent mountain bike. It is all friction shifting. The freewheel is a Shimano14-18, the chainwheels are Sugino 48-38-48. Suntour bar mount friction shifters. The way I figure it I need a 36T capacity. I am thinking about a Shimano 105, long cage, 10 speed rear derailleur. I found some attractive deals on EBAY :-) Will a 10 speed rear derailleur work OK ? I think as long as the derailleur has enough capacity then it doesn't matter if it is a derailleur for an indexed system ? Unless the derailleur pulley wheels are different ?
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Old 09-08-18, 05:08 PM
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I would get one that is rated for the number of rear cogs that you have. 5 according to your description, but that doesn't sound right for a mtn bike.

A 10 speed chain is narrower so the 105 might not work well with your width of chain.
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Since you are on eBay, I would look for a 90's LX or XT mtb derailleur. You could actually get an '80's mtb derailleur as well. I see no additional value in using a 10 speed road derailleur for your setup. Not sure if there will be a chain issue.

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Old 09-08-18, 05:52 PM
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After thinking about it, do you have a 14-28 freewheel with a 48-38-28 crankset? The specs you listed make no sense.

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Old 09-08-18, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
After thinking about it, do you have a 14-28 freewheel with a 48-38-28 crankset? The specs you listed make no sense.

John

Hi John,
Well it could have had different chainwheels installed, I don't know for sure, I bought it used. I'm pretty sure everything else is original.

Here's a more complete description:
1980's Diamond Back Ascent mountain bike, CR molly frame.
Rear derailleur: Suntour Mountech, long cage
Front derailleur: Suntour Mountech
Freewheel: Shimano 14-28
Crankset: Sugino VT, 175mm
Crankset chainwheels: 48-38-28
Shifters: Suntour XC (handle bar mounted, friction shifters)
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I suggest this one: https://www.amazon.com/microSHIFT-De.../dp/B0165T3AXI I have this RD on my Trek 720 converted to an ebike with a 5 speed 14-28 Sunrace freewheel https://www.amazon.com/Sunrace-Freew.../dp/B000AYB57S I am using a Sunrace friction shifter.

I also suggest you get a new freewheel and a new KMC X8.93 chain.

Many RD will not be happy with wider (lower number of speed) chains than they are intended for. I had a particularly bad experience with a 5/6/7 speed chain and a 9 speed Shimano RD.

I use KMC X8.93 chains on all my 8 speed and less cassettes & freewheels, and X9.93 on my 9 speeds.
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Originally Posted by nfmisso View Post
I suggest this one: https://www.amazon.com/microSHIFT-De.../dp/B0165T3AXI I have this RD on my Trek 720 converted to an ebike with a 5 speed 14-28 Sunrace freewheel https://www.amazon.com/Sunrace-Freew.../dp/B000AYB57S I am using a Sunrace friction shifter.

I also suggest you get a new freewheel and a new KMC X8.93 chain.

Many RD will not be happy with wider (lower number of speed) chains than they are intended for. I had a particularly bad experience with a 5/6/7 speed chain and a 9 speed Shimano RD.

I use KMC X8.93 chains on all my 8 speed and less cassettes & freewheels, and X9.93 on my 9 speeds.
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I was sitting here thinking about maybe I should change the chain and freewheel too while I am at it. Your post is very timely.
I found the derailleur, chain, and freewheel on Amazon and I don't need to take out a loan on my house to get them
Thanks for the info, much appreciated !
Bob
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If you use the Shimano 105 10 speed RD, make sure you can go to 36T. I think the spec says 32 or 34, though Iíve heard of people going a step bigger.
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Originally Posted by frogman View Post
Nigel,
I was sitting here thinking about maybe I should change the chain and freewheel too while I am at it. Your post is very timely.
I found the derailleur, chain, and freewheel on Amazon and I don't need to take out a loan on my house to get them
Thanks for the info, much appreciated !
Bob
Hi Bob;

Glad to assist. I forgot to mention, if you haven't done it already, you should probably replace your cable and housing.
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Friction shifting benefit is anything in a long cage MTB type , RD will work, adequately..



does not 'have' to be 'period correct' does it?
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Originally Posted by nfmisso View Post
Hi Bob;


Glad to assist. I forgot to mention, if you haven't done it already, you should probably replace your cable and housing.


Yep, I just finished installing new shifter and brake cables and housings. I ordered the freewheel, rear derailleur, and chain you recommended.

They should be here tuesday. I am getting impatient now, have to wait for the parts. This is good though because I have overhauled/regreased the headset, bottom bracket, and wheel hubs. They were actually in great shape. Oh, and I put on new tires too.

I am soooooooooooo ready to finish it.


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