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Old 11-08-14, 01:18 PM
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Might just have lucked up this time










The person that was selling it was asking for $60 but talked him down to $30. It does need a bit of work for it to be roadworthy but I figure how the frame is made it would make a good decent bike to partially restore.

What i know so far.
Shogun
Triple triangle frame.
Tange 2, Chromoly double butted.
Shimano 600 components. First Gen. With Shimano Tourney 72s brakes
Nitto olympiade 115 drop bar.
Technomic stem.
steel rims
Serial number M5L66348

What i need to know.
What year the bike was made,
What range would this be in?
Curious to know the original price. But not important.

Also this bike shouldn't have any problems holding up to a 254 pound rider would it?

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Old 02-26-16, 06:56 AM
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This is fairly original judging by the parts you have on the frame and what @-holiday76 picked up for me.

It was right in between Shimano 6200-series and 6400-series. I have a lot of v1 6400 and the last version of 6200 on the bike. I also have some v0 6400 brake levers that look a lot like 600-ax --- very similar to yours.

Your pedals, crankset, downtube shifters, stem, headset, and brake levers are original to the bike. I would guess that your handlebars, seatpost, and bottom bracket are also original. Obviously, the handlebars would not have been in hobo position.

Your wheels, saddle, and brakes are not original. This was one of Shogun's highest models, so it would not have come with a kickstand.

I would guess that it is from 1986-1988. @T-Mar might be able to do something with the serial number. I don't think I've ever looked at my serial number, so we can do a comparison.

The Tange 2 is a well made steel, and with the triple triangle, the rear will be stiff. I think it should hold a clydesdale rider at 254# just fine.
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Old 02-26-16, 07:39 AM
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Agree about the brake callipers and wheels. Looks as if someone installed smaller diameter wheels for some reason or other, maybe to create space for wider tires and had to install longer reach brakes to compensate. The wheels and brakes are not as good quality as the rest of the components. Those steel rims and long reach sidepull brakes may not provide much stopping power, especially for a 250 pound rider

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Old 02-26-16, 08:03 AM
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The subject bicycle is a 1986 Shogun 1000, manufactured in late 1985. Original price, $520 US. The Shimano New 600EX componets are OEM. The original brakes were also New 600EX and rims would have been aluminum Araya SS-40 700C laced to New 600EX hubs. It would have been a mid-range model. Based on the serial number it was probably manufactured by Merida of Taiwan. Miki of Japan uses a similar serial number format, but there is one more character than we typically see with them. So, unless there is a Made in Japan sticker, the best candidate would appear to be Merida.

Edit: FYI, New 600EX is 4th generation 600. Generations are 600, 600EX, 600AX, New 600EX, 600 Ultegra, Ultegra, etc.

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Old 02-26-16, 08:35 AM
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No issue with your weight, nice score. Hobo bars, priceless!
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Thank y'all for your responses. Yes, T-Mar there is a Made in Japan sticker. The 600 components are RD-6208 and FD-6207. The crankset and shifters are 6207 and i'm pretty sure the brake levers are 6207 as well.

If this is a mid range roadie, does that mean i can have a brook saddle on this baby!, I would really like to get this to roadworthy condition. I like to keep the 600 components because they shift like butter. I expect i would need new cables, wheels/tires new freewheel cassette. brakes. and maybe new chainrings and of course a new chain. I was going to bring it to my local bike shop, when i bought in my Rans v2 formula for a major tune up, to see how much they would charge to get the shogun 1000 back on the road.

Only problem with the shogun is the bike is a 58cm with 32 inch stand over height and i'm 5'8 with 31-32 inseam. But it rides so good. even with the wheels being untrue.
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You may have a hard time finding toe clips for those pedals. Which may be a good thing, those are IMHO the second most uncomfortable pedals I've ever ridden. Only the same style 105 , with the plastic clips are worse.
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You may have a hard time finding toe clips for those pedals. Which may be a good thing, those are IMHO the second most uncomfortable pedals I've ever ridden. Only the same style 105 , with the plastic clips are worse.
Another problem would be finding the shoes/cleats that goes with them in order to be able to clip in. A guy that i bought my Rans V2 Formula from, give me some Bontrager RE-1 pedels. but one pedal is broken and the broken piece may or may not be replaceable. Might just be better looking into buying some new SPD pedels. I've seen some deals where you can get shoes and pedals combo. I've heard its better to go with some MTB shoes so then you can walk around.

The Red dot is the piece that broke off on both sides of the same pedal.
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Old 02-27-16, 06:14 AM
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You can use standard slotted cleats with those pedals. You do not have to use the dedicated cleats. As for for replacement toe clips, just make your own. It's not that hard.
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Looks like this one


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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
Based on the serial number it was probably manufactured by Merida of Taiwan. Miki of Japan uses a similar serial number format, but there is one more character than we typically see with them. So, unless there is a Made in Japan sticker, the best candidate would appear to be Merida.
Right above the bottom bracket on the seat tube below the front derailleur clamp, there is what looks to be a "Made in ..." sticker. Does it have a location?
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I have seen several Shoguns with that style frame model called Katana.
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