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Old 11-04-18, 11:00 AM
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black is okay, as long as there are a few colors to highlight the bike.
Of course, "few" is a relative term......



This paint scheme is by Shamrock Cycles and was on display at the NAHBS show in Louisville, KY in 2015. It won "best paint", and was reportedly a huge amount of work to mask off so many little color rectangles. Really beautiful, though!

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Heinz Stuke used a paint marker on his black bike friday... stating where it's been.. with him..

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Originally Posted by berner View Post
I don't care what color it is as long as it is shiny. Nothing like the feeling of self worth when your bike is freshly cleaned, waxed and polished. Especially the spokes.
I'm good with that. My carbon LOOK is fine, 'cuz it's shiny!
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Old 11-04-18, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
black is okay, as long as there are a few colors to highlight the bike.
Of course, "few" is a relative term......



This paint scheme is by Shamrock Cycles and was on display at the NAHBS show in Louisville, KY in 2015. It won "best paint", and was reportedly a huge amount of work to mask off so many little color rectangles. Really beautiful, though!

Steve in Peoria

I love that. Not sure I'd want to own it, but I do like it. In fact I was at that show and remember seeing it. It was also where I met Dario Pegoretti. Now HE knew how to paint a bike! RIP Sir.
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Old 11-04-18, 06:10 PM
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If Robocop had ridden a bike, it would have been flat black.
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Old 11-04-18, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
black is okay, as long as there are a few colors to highlight the bike.
Of course, "few" is a relative term......



This paint scheme is by Shamrock Cycles and was on display at the NAHBS show in Louisville, KY in 2015. It won "best paint", and was reportedly a huge amount of work to mask off so many little color rectangles. Really beautiful, though!

Steve in Peoria


needs some fenders


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Old 11-04-18, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kryten41 View Post
If Robocop had ridden a bike, it would have been flat black.
HA! Probably Batman too.
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Old 11-04-18, 07:36 PM
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My complaint with black components is simply practical:
Anything that gets used is going to get a few scratches and/or light abrasion.
Scratch an aluminum/stainless-steel/titanium component with a natural finish, and it will be barely noticeable.
Scratch the identical part with a stupid black finish, and the natural bright metal will show through, making the scratch stand out like a sore thumb.
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Old 11-04-18, 08:32 PM
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None of you carrying a piece of coloured chalk? every matteblack surface is a blackboard, right??

Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
Scratch the identical part with a stupid black finish, and the natural bright metal will show through, making the scratch stand out like a sore thumb.
u think that's bad? last Murdered Out overpaint job I did earlier this year, I used a new line of epoxy paint in contrasting textures of matte, satin & gloss... black.

Bike stripped & prepped. Paint went on fine, no dramas... but I didn't realise it needed 72hrs+ to fully cure

But I had deadline to meet, job needed rebuilding by 48hrs after final coats nerve wracking rebuild that was, couldn't touch any painted areas...


haha last week I bought a bottle of nail varnish in matte black. Handy for touchups
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Old 11-06-18, 11:41 AM
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Actually, in wiping down the bike with a damp cloth I've found that is a good time to check maintenance issues such as a broken spoke, check for chain wear or anything else that may need attention.
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Old 11-06-18, 12:10 PM
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I like this better than the fancy Shamrock.

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Heinz Stuke used a paint marker on his black bike friday... stating where it's been.. with him..

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Old 11-06-18, 01:14 PM
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No good without some blue...
I had a Pioneer just like that one, except mine had flip switches rather than the buttons. Must have been a different model year. Bought mine at the base exchange, in 66, when I was stationed on Guam.
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Old 11-07-18, 03:22 PM
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Black has its advantages ....

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Old 11-13-18, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo View Post
My complaint with black components is simply practical:
Anything that gets used is going to get a few scratches and/or light abrasion.
Scratch an aluminum/stainless-steel/titanium component with a natural finish, and it will be barely noticeable.
Scratch the identical part with a stupid black finish, and the natural bright metal will show through, making the scratch stand out like a sore thumb.
Agreed. Earlier this summer I purchased an mtb with all flat black components (orange bike) and it shows dirt worse than any other bike Iíve owned. To make it worse, the matte finish holds onto the dirt better than a smooth finish making it harder to clean. Fortunately, dirt and scratches look more at home on a mountain bike than a road bike.

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Old 11-13-18, 09:31 AM
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I've had plenty of sore thumbs that looked no different than regular thumbs.
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Originally Posted by surlyprof View Post


Agreed. Earlier this summer I purchased an mtb with all flat black components (orange bike) and it shows dirt worse than any other bike Iíve owned. To make it worse, the matte finish holds onto the dirt better than a smooth finish making it harder to clean. Fortunately, dirt and scratches look more at home on a mountain bike than a road bike.

john
That reminds me of something I read on a motorcycle forum:
- Get a red bike if you enjoy talking to cops.
- Get a black bike if you enjoy washing your bike.
- Get a white bike if you enjoy being mistaken for a cop.
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Old 11-13-18, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy View Post
black is okay, as long as there are a few colors to highlight the bike.
Of course, "few" is a relative term......



This paint scheme is by Shamrock Cycles and was on display at the NAHBS show in Louisville, KY in 2015. It won "best paint", and was reportedly a huge amount of work to mask off so many little color rectangles. Really beautiful, though!

Steve in Peoria
I just think of the Partridge Family every time I see that pattern and colors on a Look Bike
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Old 11-13-18, 11:36 AM
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Hey I'm 69 so I understand that styles come and go and they have to....otherwise manufacturers and merchants wouldn't have anything to sell. Most things are sold not because we need them but because we're convinced a "new one is better". I understand that. Still, I want to say how much I don't like this trend of Flat or Satin black paint on the frame and worse yet...all the components. Everything a dull black. Looks horrible to me. There are plenty of examples on this forum but I don't wish to offend anyone. New bikes today are head and shoulders better than what most of us on this forum grew up with. But...I NEED SOME COLOR! And I want to see some Silver components as well.

Oh, AND GET OFF MY LAWN!
I totally agree. Besides black frames are burning hot in the summer and just not logical.
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Besides black frames are burning hot in the summer and just not logical.
My black frame is not burning hot in the Summer. Go figure.
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My black frame is not burning hot in the Summer. Go figure.
Two words: surface area.
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Originally Posted by KraneXL View Post
Two words: surface area.
The correct two words would be:

Heat conductivity
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Old 11-13-18, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KraneXL View Post
Two words: surface area.
The frames get no hotter than your black Lycra shorts. When your shorts start to feel uncomfortable, like at say 130 degrees F or so, maybe than call it a day.

This idea of all black frames getting hot to the touch is such a ludicrous concept,
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Burning hot frames LoL.

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Old 11-23-18, 07:35 PM
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A little black to go with the red is good, dont you think?
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post

A little black to go with the red is good, dont you think?
I certainly think so! While black on black would be boring, black and red is hot!
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