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Some cyclists and arrogance

Old 05-19-20, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by guadzilla View Post
So this thread was on my mind today as i went out for my ride. Had a bunch of VO2 max intervals and then a long steady Z3 effort. In the recovery between the VO2 efforts, I saw a cyclist coming the other way. I nodded at him. The nod was returned. We both went our separate ways.

It wasnt as rewarding an experience as I thought it would be - frankly, I feel let down.
haha. next time, just flick him off and see how that makes u feel
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Old 05-19-20, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tacoenthusiast View Post
Show us on the doll where the mean arrogant cyclist touched you
i began to deeply weep in sorrow, crying for hours as this one very arrogant cyclist deeply hurt me, inside.. damn
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Old 05-19-20, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by guadzilla View Post
It wasnt as rewarding an experience as I thought it would be - frankly, I feel let down.
You must have done it wrong. Try again. This should have been a lifestyle-affirming moment that warmed your soul.
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Old 05-19-20, 07:04 AM
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By all accounts, Prague is a lovely city. Maybe OP could start a thread in the Blogger's section and post some photos of cycling through the area.
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Old 05-19-20, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by venturi95 View Post
I am lycra-clad and very friendly. I won't even bully you for sounding like a out of touch journalist writing a story about lycra-clad cyclists. "Lycra-clad" is almost as smearing as "Lance wanna be". But I'll forgive you for the bit about carbon fiber, we all know what jerks those folks are.
You forgot "fully kitted" and "superman costumed".
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Old 05-19-20, 07:54 AM
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Amusing thread. I do find a fair bit of reverse snobbery in cycling and it has gotten worse more recently. Back in the seventies on my Raleigh SC and then Masi GC, I used to ride pretty fast and race occasionally. Don't remember running into much snobbery. Now that I am on old man and a bit slower I get the funniest looks from some when I ride my F8. Sure I can't do the bike justice but I am blessed enough to afford it and certainly enjoy riding it. That said the snobbery of some of the steel is real crowd that is my age can be overbearing too. I think it is more a sign of the times than the sport.
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Old 05-19-20, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
You must have done it wrong. Try again. This should have been a lifestyle-affirming moment that warmed your soul.
So true story - despite my general jackassery on this thread, I do nod to other cyclists if i make eye contact (which admittedly is not often, as I am seldom paying attention to the opposite side of the road). So a few months ago, I waved to a couple of MTBers/hybrid riders going the other way -- and the wave was not returned!

What is the appropriate level of vengeance to extract in such a case?
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Old 05-19-20, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
By all accounts, Prague is a lovely city. Maybe OP could start a thread in the Blogger's section and post some photos of cycling through the area.
+1 to this. It's on my short list of countries to visit very soon, with bicycle.
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Old 05-19-20, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by carminepraha View Post
haha. next time, just flick him off and see how that makes u feel
Btw, props to you for taking the (mostly) good-natured snark in your stride. See, we arent all that arrogant.
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Old 05-19-20, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by guadzilla View Post
So true story - despite my general jackassery on this thread, I do nod to other cyclists if i make eye contact (which admittedly is not often, as I am seldom paying attention to the opposite side of the road). So a few months ago, I waved to a couple of MTBers/hybrid riders going the other way -- and the wave was not returned!

What is the appropriate level of vengeance to extract in such a case?
I'd say "u-lock justice," but since we're in Road and not Commuting, a frame pump co2 cannister in the spokes will have to do.
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Old 05-19-20, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert A View Post
Everybody on a bicycle is my best friend because I may need their help, and would willingly give them mine, at some point in the ride. The only ones that are not my friends are groups that present health risks by riding in tight pacelines.
Iíve given three random cyclists rides home in the past two years that had some sort of ride ending mechanical. Just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Yesterday some guy was on the side of the road messing with his drivetrain so I stopped, put my mask on and asked if he needed help.
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Old 05-19-20, 10:29 AM
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I’m a friendly person and say hello to every cyclist I meet. Most say hello. Some don’t acknowledge my greeting at all. I don’t know why some cyclists are more friendly than others, but I do find myself disppaointed and even annoyed when my greeting is ignored.

By the way, why is cycling considered a sport? I thought that “sport” implied competition. Most cyclists ride for recreation, not competition.
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Old 05-19-20, 10:32 AM
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I'll give a wave or nod to other cyclists and pedestrians in my conscious range.
These days I avoid other cyclists.
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Old 05-19-20, 10:39 AM
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I'm much more likely to wave to you the farther out from town we are. And in my experience, riders in team jerseys are much more likely to return the wave. I know that goes against the commonly held perception, but that's my personal observation.
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Old 05-19-20, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by phrantic09 View Post
Iíve given three random cyclists rides home in the past two years that had some sort of ride ending mechanical. Just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Yesterday some guy was on the side of the road messing with his drivetrain so I stopped, put my mask on and asked if he needed help.
Thanks for doing that. Had a guy in a pickup give me a ride home one day when I suffered an irrecoverable ride-ending mechanical about 6 or 7 miles away from home and I couldn't reach my wife. Was pushing my bike home in my SPD-SL shoes (kick me while I'm down why doncha!) and the dude asks if I need a ride. I'm hoping to pay that forward someday. So far the closest I've come was pulling over on my bike and letting a guy use my chain breaker and quick link after he snapped his chain.
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Old 05-19-20, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug View Post
Yup. This is what kills me about that and the "southern charm" thing. Give me NY directness.

Often misunderstood as being blunt, brusque, impatient, or rude, the NY method is a major time saver with a built-in BS meter attached. Thereís no malice or ill will involved, just an efficiency of communication.
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Old 05-19-20, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster View Post
Often misunderstood as being blunt, brusque, impatient, or rude, the NY method is a major time saver with a built-in BS meter attached. Thereís no malice or ill will involved, just an efficiency of communication.
If anyone has a problem with that, let me know and i'll explain it to you.

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Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster View Post
Often misunderstood as being blunt, brusque, impatient, or rude, the NY method is a major time saver with a built-in BS meter attached. Thereís no malice or ill will involved, just an efficiency of communication.
Yep, nuance and subtlety don't work for everyone, bless their hearts.
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This thread has gotten to me - I passed my wife in the hall and waved, she didn't wave back, actually she asked me why the F I was waving at her. Now I have to live forever with an arrogant elitist...
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Originally Posted by venturi95 View Post
I am lycra-clad and very friendly. I won't even bully you for sounding like a out of touch journalist writing a story about lycra-clad cyclists. "Lycra-clad" is almost as smearing as "Lance wanna be". But I'll forgive you for the bit about carbon fiber, we all know what jerks those folks are.
Eh, me too, the lycra works well... so why not wear it? After nearly 60 years of being american (all my life so far) we do suffer a media-cultural bullying about money and power.... The ones that do succumb to the hype-as-life, probably fit the OP's description....
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Originally Posted by mprince View Post
This thread has gotten to me - I passed my wife in the hall and waved, she didn't wave back, actually she asked me why the F I was waving at her. Now I have to live forever with an arrogant elitist...
itís actually hilarious how many here just assume i meant all of this in regards to waving or nodding to passing cyclists lol. I never even mentioned this at all. sux ur wife is an arrogant elitist. good luck!
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Originally Posted by guadzilla View Post
So this thread was on my mind today as i went out for my ride. Had a bunch of VO2 max intervals and then a long steady Z3 effort. In the recovery between the VO2 efforts, I saw a cyclist coming the other way. I nodded at him. The nod was returned. We both went our separate ways.

It wasnt as rewarding an experience as I thought it would be - frankly, I feel let down.
I never feel let down as I am doing my biking equivalent to "namaste": recognizing the humanity in each person I nod to or wave at....
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Old 05-19-20, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SethAZ View Post
I'm quite an Anglophile, but I think the US has this one. I think of inverse like this: the inverse of 3 is 1/3. Inverse snobbery would then be 1/snobbery, or just a fraction that gets closer and closer to zero the higher the original snobbery value. In a sense, "inverse snobbery" would be humility, or egalitarianism, or something else.

I've run into arrogant cyclists, but to be honest I don't think the cycling world of real people is overrepresented in this regard than the general population. For every dude who shows up to a group ride extremely pleased with himself because he imagines that his bike is more expensive than everyone else's, there are probably hundreds of folks who do the exact same with their cars, their gated housing communities, their cameras, their gaming computers, or any other hobby or money-pit we all like to gather around and empty our wallets. Most of the folks who I've met in group rides are very friendly, and I've enjoyed riding with them a lot. I can hardly wait for the Covid to fade away so the bike shops can start doing their group rides again.

He who is without sin, let him first cast a stone. Confession time: if I'm honest, I do sometimes feel a twinge of smugness when I blow by non-cyclist folks out toodling along on their random bikes. And by "random bikes" I just mean what most non-cyclists would think of as a bike. I wave to them all, of course, and they wave back.
Inversed just means "reversed". Literally, you can go look it up. With numbers it's muddled because it's not just that 3 becomes smaller, as in your example, but that 3/1 becomes 1/3. It's easier to see when you don't use whole numbers, such that 2/3 is the inverse of 3/2, and also the reverse.

Now, inverse/ reverse snobbery could also be interpreted as self-deprecation or excessive kudos to others, but for whatever reason that's not what we take it to mean.
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Old 05-19-20, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by carminepraha View Post
itís actually hilarious how many here just assume i meant all of this in regards to waving or nodding to passing cyclists lol. I never even mentioned this at all.
You're right, you never did specify how those guys hurt you!
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Originally Posted by carminepraha View Post
sux ur wife is an arrogant elitist. good luck!
You never mentioned anything, and now you are insulting a memberís wife.

Sad.
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