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Gizzmo to interfer with cell phones, is there?

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Old 08-16-08, 03:37 PM
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Gizzmo to interfer with cell phones, is there?

Drivers using cell phones are a prob. Was wondering whether anyone knew of a gizzmo that a rider could use that would interfere with a cell phone operation?
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Old 08-16-08, 03:39 PM
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What happens if said driver runs you over while trying to get said cellphone working? Talk about increasing the distraction space...
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EMP...that should keep the cars from starting in the first place.
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Originally Posted by uke
What happens if said driver runs you over while trying to get said cellphone working? Talk about increasing the distraction space...
But how many times are you passing a car? My bike has breaks. And I don't know the driver is a PITA on the phone until they are past me.
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Old 08-16-08, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CaboWabo
EMP...that should keep the cars from starting in the first place.
Sadly, no!

Another "myth" that seems to have grown up with information on EMP is that nearly all cars and trucks would be "knocked out" by EMP. This seems logical, but is one of those cases where "real world" experiments contradict theoretical answers and I'm afraid this is the case with cars and EMP. According to sources working at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, cars have proven to be resistant to EMP in actual tests using nuclear weapons as well as during more recent tests (with newer cars) with the US Military's EMP simulators.

One reason for the ability of a car to resist EMP lies in the fact that its metal body is "insulated" by its rubber tires from the ground. This creates a Faraday cage of sorts. (Drawing on the analogy of EMP being similar to lightning, it is interesting to note that cases of lightning striking and damaging cars is almost non-existent; this apparently carries over to EMP effects on vehicles as well.)

Although Faraday boxes are generally made so that what is inside doesn't touch the box's outer metal shield (and this is especially important for the do-it-yourself since it is easy to inadvertently ground the Faraday box—say by putting the box on metal shelving sitting on a concrete floor), in the case of the car the "grounded" wiring is grounded only to the battery. In practice, the entire system is not grounded in the traditional electrical wiring sense of actually making contact to the earth at some point in its circuitry. Rather the car is sitting on insulators made of rubber.

It is important to note that cars are NOT 100 percent EMP proof; some cars will most certainly be affected, especially those with fibreglass bodies or located near large stretches of metal. (I suspect, too, that recent cars with a high percentage of IC circuitry might also be more susceptible to EMP effects.)

The bottom line is that all vehicles probably won't be knocked out by EMP. But the prudent survivalist should make a few contingency plans "just in case" his car (and other electrical equipment) does not survive the effects of EMP. Discovering that you have one of the few cars knocked out would not be a good way to start the onset of terrorist attack or nuclear war.

Most susceptible to EMP damage would be cars with a lot of IC circuits or other "computers" to control essential changes in the engine. The very prudent may wish to buy spare electronic ignition parts and keep them a car truck (perhaps inside a Faraday box). But it seems probable that many vehicles WILL be working following the start of a nuclear war even if no precautions have been taken with them.
https://standeyo.com/News_Files/NBC/EMP.protection.html
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It's worth a shot.


Btw I'm fairly certain there's no device that does this and if there was it would probably be illegal for civilian use.
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Originally Posted by CaboWabo
It's worth a shot.


Btw I'm fairly certain there's no device that does this and if there was it would probably be illegal for civilian use.
They exist, though legality depends on where you live, where you're using it, and how.
https://www.phonejammer.com/ (or any other similar site, they're just the first google link).

The portable ones and the ones that could be made portable are only good for about 60 feet though, and I'd hate to have a driver drop signal right as they're cruising towards me, only to start fiddling with the phone.
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I figured a device actually "existed" for the purpose, but figured it wouldn't be available to the public. Looks like most of those devices are for settings like a church or movie theater, some where that they can justify (legally) having it.

Having one in your pocket while you're riding your bike is probably not what it's meant for, although I doubt any one would ever figure it out. Like the_mac said I would hate to have some joker lose signal and look down just 60ft before he passes me.
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Actually years ago I heard about them in Japan because of the rude behavior in public places. Searched the web for cell phone jammers and found some but not imported to the US due to FCC crap.
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You'd likely be breaking federal law by interfering with a cell phone transmission.
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It's called a cell phone jammer.

It's illegal to use in Canada at least. You can buy them online at various places. As for disconnecting people driving using their phones. I'm not sure which is worse, them talking, or them looking at their phone wondering why the hell they've just been disconnected.
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I once heard of someone who got his jollies jamming radio frequencies at a model airplane flying field in order to crash planes. Fate dealt him in one day when an out of control plane smashed into his own car shattering his driver's window and spraying him with glass shards. When people came over to see if he was OK they observed the little radio jammer in his car and proceeded to beat him within an inch of his life.

Use caution when tempting fate.
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I bought my small jammer a few years ago and loved it so much I purchased a larger unit a few months later.

I haven't had a movie, dinner, book shopping or park experience interrupted in years.
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Originally Posted by EvilPhish
I bought my small jammer a few years ago and loved it so much I purchased a larger unit a few months later.

I haven't had a movie, dinner, book shopping or park experience interrupted in years.
Not that I believe this, but have you thought about people making emergency calls. Or a hospital contacting a doctor. Oh, did I say "think"? Sorry.
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Originally Posted by EvilPhish
I bought my small jammer a few years ago and loved it so much I purchased a larger unit a few months later.

I haven't had a movie, dinner, book shopping or park experience interrupted in years.
Those things are known to cause sterility in men, right?
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Originally Posted by johnny99
Those things are known to cause sterility in men, right?
Are we talking about saddles, cell phones, or jammers?
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Those things are known to cause sterility in men, right?
True. They hinder testosterone production and encourage extra estrogen production.
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But how many times are you passing a car? My bike has breaks. And I don't know the driver is a PITA on the phone until they are past me.
If your bike has breaks, you shouldn't be riding it. Get those breaks fixed.
 
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Originally Posted by bonti
Not that I believe this, but have you thought about people making emergency calls. Or a hospital contacting a doctor. Oh, did I say "think"? Sorry.
I put as much thought into jamming other people's ability to make calls as they put into making and receiving calls in inappropriate places.

Special circumstance people (those on call for example) should pay closer attention to the signal strength display on their phones if it's that important.
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Originally Posted by CaboWabo
It's worth a shot.


Btw I'm fairly certain there's no device that does this and if there was it would probably be illegal for civilian use.

There is such a thing... we used them in Iraq to jam the signal.... they were using cell phones to detonate IEDs
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Feasible, yes. I know of at least one DIY guide.

Logical/Useful/Good Idea? No.
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Originally Posted by bonti
Not that I believe this, but have you thought about people making emergency calls. Or a hospital contacting a doctor. Oh, did I say "think"? Sorry.
How on earth did we survive emergency situations 20 years ago without cell phones!
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How on earth did we survive emergency situations 20 years ago without cell phones!
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