Miyata 615 purchase; needing some work, as found
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Miyata 615 purchase; needing some work, as found
I don't need another bike at all, and this one may be too small for me too. For some reason, I have been looking for a light tourer to play with. I guess I couldn't resist the craigslist ad for $100. Research shows it to be a 1988 and 54cm. I know many other people find LOTS nicer bikes for the same price or less, but I don't, or maybe I'm not patient enough. This one is supposedly from a second owner who used it very little and it was sitting in his toy barn for maybe 10 years. Story was original owner rode it little too.
He claimed all original, but the Schwinn approved turkey levers say otherwise as does the seat. It looks to need most everything I suppose, but I've wasted $100 before. Besides the scratches on the top tube, supposedly from barn bumps, it looks pretty clean though. Flat tires, so I didn't ride and most everything is stiff and needing grease. I learned here a bit, and DID insure that the seat post is not stuck. I know people like these "as found" pics, so let me have the dressing down on this one.
He claimed all original, but the Schwinn approved turkey levers say otherwise as does the seat. It looks to need most everything I suppose, but I've wasted $100 before. Besides the scratches on the top tube, supposedly from barn bumps, it looks pretty clean though. Flat tires, so I didn't ride and most everything is stiff and needing grease. I learned here a bit, and DID insure that the seat post is not stuck. I know people like these "as found" pics, so let me have the dressing down on this one.
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That's actually pretty nice for $100. Looks to be straight, and Miyata frames are good quality. If you're looking for a tourer, you could do a lot worse.
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My 84 610 is my favorite bike (this week). If it’s not too small & you can be comfortable on it, I think you’ll be really happy with it. My understanding is that the 610/615 has a slightly sportier geometry than the 1000.
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Pretty good for $100 actually. Mid range Miyata's from mid 80's onward are better than many other mid range offerings! I ride a Golden Arrow equipped 1985 Miyata 310 and I love it. This bike will be a keeper for you for sure, if it fits. There doesn't look to be much there that won't clean up nicely.
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I have the exact same bike that I payed $100 for a year or so ago. Mine is 60cm with 32 width tire giving a nice soft ride.
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You did well, I'd say. No surprise everything's stiff, if it's been in storage all this time. Will take plenty of clean-up and all fresh lube, but it'll wind up very nice. Miyata made their own frame tubing BITD, and that STB tubing is unique.
Interesting slice of history, one of the first SIS, but one of the last before aero brake levers. You hear grumbles about adjusting those cantis, but I like them.
"Nice rack"; is it a Blackburn?
But please, don't post any more pics before putting that handlebar in a sane position. You're gonna give us all nosebleeds.
Interesting slice of history, one of the first SIS, but one of the last before aero brake levers. You hear grumbles about adjusting those cantis, but I like them.
"Nice rack"; is it a Blackburn?
But please, don't post any more pics before putting that handlebar in a sane position. You're gonna give us all nosebleeds.
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Thanks all
Yes, I have seen that other absolute beauty that Robert bought for the same price. And oh yes, the bars were crazy and tires flat, but it is always cool to see the “as found” pics. I think it will clean up nicely except for the one substantial scratch on the top tube. 32C tires held air and gave a 31” stand over height, so perhaps I will like the fit. I’m 5’10” with medium inseam and my other bikes are technically on the large size for me. I raised the seat and bars to the maximum insertion height and in seemed decent.
The only other indexing I have is on a vintage steel Bianchi hybrid, so I will see how this one works. On the stand, after one turn of the cable adjuster, it was clicking nicely from gear to gear. I’m not a great fan of downtube shifters but these worked really nice. The turkey lever DiaCompe brakes had a solid feel to the accessory lever unlike my old SuperSport, so will stay for now. What were the stock levers? It is hard to find specs for this bike. I think that Blackburn rack is stock with this bike too.
Im not sure how this fits in with my modest collection and wether it is different enough from my 83 Trek to earn some of my limited riding time, but cleanup will be a nice diversion from the world. Actually I’m not sure it needs any parts except maybe some cables and bar tape. The housings seem pretty usable, and I will learn about the cantis. The tires even seemed rideable for now and the 700C wheels were relatively true.
i guess the price while not a steal was decent, as 5 other guys called after me, but the seller gave me first shot. I have been eyeing a 1000LT at the co-op for a year, but it just stayed at 62cm and never shrunk to my size. New projects are fun.
The only other indexing I have is on a vintage steel Bianchi hybrid, so I will see how this one works. On the stand, after one turn of the cable adjuster, it was clicking nicely from gear to gear. I’m not a great fan of downtube shifters but these worked really nice. The turkey lever DiaCompe brakes had a solid feel to the accessory lever unlike my old SuperSport, so will stay for now. What were the stock levers? It is hard to find specs for this bike. I think that Blackburn rack is stock with this bike too.
Im not sure how this fits in with my modest collection and wether it is different enough from my 83 Trek to earn some of my limited riding time, but cleanup will be a nice diversion from the world. Actually I’m not sure it needs any parts except maybe some cables and bar tape. The housings seem pretty usable, and I will learn about the cantis. The tires even seemed rideable for now and the 700C wheels were relatively true.
i guess the price while not a steal was decent, as 5 other guys called after me, but the seller gave me first shot. I have been eyeing a 1000LT at the co-op for a year, but it just stayed at 62cm and never shrunk to my size. New projects are fun.
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Levers?
Robert, zooming in on your pic it looks as though there is a plug in the brake hoods where the levers could accept the accessory lever. Perhaps that was an option, and I have stock levers after all.
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Looks to me like you did just fine. Though not a screaming hot deal like $25 at a garage sale or something, that bike is not overpriced at $100. If you are frugal and can do the servicing it needs, you can get that bike working perfectly without breaking the bank, surely if the tires can be used. Doesn't look like there's anything that absolutely needs replacing except bar tape, probably the galvanized cables, probably the brake pads, and maybe the chain.
The scratched top tube is unfortunate, but it could be carefully de-rusted and then spot touched up with clear and it would then be protected and not so gross it would keep you up at night.
The pedals that are on that bike, by the way, are very nice though to take advantage of them you'll need clips and straps, if that's acceptable to you. They may feel a little crunchy, but they are very serviceable. I believe there is a oil/grease port on the outward cap and you can try to inject grease with a needle fitting on your gun until it comes out clean if you don't want to take the pedals apart. Sometimes that works.
The scratched top tube is unfortunate, but it could be carefully de-rusted and then spot touched up with clear and it would then be protected and not so gross it would keep you up at night.
The pedals that are on that bike, by the way, are very nice though to take advantage of them you'll need clips and straps, if that's acceptable to you. They may feel a little crunchy, but they are very serviceable. I believe there is a oil/grease port on the outward cap and you can try to inject grease with a needle fitting on your gun until it comes out clean if you don't want to take the pedals apart. Sometimes that works.
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Oh yes on the pedals
Looks to me like you did just fine. Though not a screaming hot deal like $25 at a garage sale or something, that bike is not overpriced at $100. If you are frugal and can do the servicing it needs, you can get that bike working perfectly without breaking the bank, surely if the tires can be used. Doesn't look like there's anything that absolutely needs replacing except bar tape, probably the galvanized cables, probably the brake pads, and maybe the chain.
The scratched top tube is unfortunate, but it could be carefully de-rusted and then spot touched up with clear and it would then be protected and not so gross it would keep you up at night.
The pedals that are on that bike, by the way, are very nice though to take advantage of them you'll need clips and straps, if that's acceptable to you. They may feel a little crunchy, but they are very serviceable. I believe there is a oil/grease port on the outward cap and you can try to inject grease with a needle fitting on your gun until it comes out clean if you don't want to take the pedals apart. Sometimes that works.
The scratched top tube is unfortunate, but it could be carefully de-rusted and then spot touched up with clear and it would then be protected and not so gross it would keep you up at night.
The pedals that are on that bike, by the way, are very nice though to take advantage of them you'll need clips and straps, if that's acceptable to you. They may feel a little crunchy, but they are very serviceable. I believe there is a oil/grease port on the outward cap and you can try to inject grease with a needle fitting on your gun until it comes out clean if you don't want to take the pedals apart. Sometimes that works.
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That's really nice! It's good to see other sweet touring rides in Toledo.
I actually haven't ridden so much here in the area since I moved here. Only a handful of rides last year, and one this weekend.
I actually haven't ridden so much here in the area since I moved here. Only a handful of rides last year, and one this weekend.
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I don't understand being sheepish about paying $100 for that bike. That was EASILY a $250 bike a few years ago when I was looking for them.
That year Miyata 615 was a great bike- with a main frame of the Splined Triple Butted CrMo tubing- you've got a good and stiff frame without adding a whole lot of weight. You'll notice the difference between that and a 531 frame- it's readily apparent to me. That's what's going to matter when you're toting around 25 or so pounds on the back of the bike, and going down a hill. The Mangalite fork- if it's anything like the Tange Mangalloy that Trek used is, again, great stuff. As far as components go... those look to be the SR SP-155 which was the successor to the SP-11 pedals; just guessing- that looks like a Z525GS RD and Z204 FD- The RD is a good, no nonsense RD- I haven't used the GS version- but I put a lot of miles on the short cage version. The Z204 is a really nice shifting FD. (and it goes nice on double chainring bikes as well). The crankset looks like the FC124- again- a nice crankset- it looks good and isn't all branded up as to what level it is- just "Shimano" (the same thing I love about the Z series brake levers- just "Shimano"). One of the other nifty things you've got going on- that headset mounted cable hanger for the front brakes- I love those things! Totally overbuilt- but absolutely cool. And take care of that Miyata branded stem- specifically that M plug- mine came all damaged- yours is in really nice shape-
I think it *might* be a bit too small for you- but if you're comfortable on it- that's all that matters.
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That year Miyata 615 was a great bike- with a main frame of the Splined Triple Butted CrMo tubing- you've got a good and stiff frame without adding a whole lot of weight. You'll notice the difference between that and a 531 frame- it's readily apparent to me. That's what's going to matter when you're toting around 25 or so pounds on the back of the bike, and going down a hill. The Mangalite fork- if it's anything like the Tange Mangalloy that Trek used is, again, great stuff. As far as components go... those look to be the SR SP-155 which was the successor to the SP-11 pedals; just guessing- that looks like a Z525GS RD and Z204 FD- The RD is a good, no nonsense RD- I haven't used the GS version- but I put a lot of miles on the short cage version. The Z204 is a really nice shifting FD. (and it goes nice on double chainring bikes as well). The crankset looks like the FC124- again- a nice crankset- it looks good and isn't all branded up as to what level it is- just "Shimano" (the same thing I love about the Z series brake levers- just "Shimano"). One of the other nifty things you've got going on- that headset mounted cable hanger for the front brakes- I love those things! Totally overbuilt- but absolutely cool. And take care of that Miyata branded stem- specifically that M plug- mine came all damaged- yours is in really nice shape-
I think it *might* be a bit too small for you- but if you're comfortable on it- that's all that matters.
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Found the catalog - https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...logue%2088.pdf . Specs are on p. 27. No reference to the turkey levers, probably an LBS mod. Indeed, the rack is stock. And a 40-spoke rear wheel, dayum!
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Thanks for the catalog
Found the catalog - https://www.ragandbone.ca/PDFs/Miyat...logue%2088.pdf . Specs are on p. 27. No reference to the turkey levers, probably an LBS mod. Indeed, the rack is stock. And a 40-spoke rear wheel, dayum!
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I would consider that a great deal where I live. Very rare to see something like that in Baton Rouge or New Orleans Craigs list. If it fits you and you keep it you may be able to find someone local to match the paint and refinish just the top tube for a reasonable price. Or at least maybe go to an auto paint store and have them mix you some matching touch up paint. If it doesn't fit you, well, it's my size.
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Tough to find nice weather
Yes, I am the same. We don’t have as much nice riding weather as some and with working, it is hard to get rides in. I see many serious riders out in the suburban areas when the weather warms up. Having multiple bikes helps. My old 3 speed is nice for relaxing neighborhood jaunts, and a hybrid is fun for some urban exploring. The road bikes, however require about 5 miles of heavier traffic until I finally get to see a farm field. I have a bike rack for my car, but haven’t used it yet.
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Yes, I am the same. We don’t have as much nice riding weather as some and with working, it is hard to get rides in. I see many serious riders out in the suburban areas when the weather warms up. Having multiple bikes helps. My old 3 speed is nice for relaxing neighborhood jaunts, and a hybrid is fun for some urban exploring. The road bikes, however require about 5 miles of heavier traffic until I finally get to see a farm field. I have a bike rack for my car, but haven’t used it yet.
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Yes, I have seen that other absolute beauty that Robert bought for the same price. And oh yes, the bars were crazy and tires flat, but it is always cool to see the “as found” pics. I think it will clean up nicely except for the one substantial scratch on the top tube. 32C tires held air and gave a 31” stand over height, so perhaps I will like the fit. I’m 5’10” with medium inseam and my other bikes are technically on the large size for me. I raised the seat and bars to the maximum insertion height and in seemed decent.
The only other indexing I have is on a vintage steel Bianchi hybrid, so I will see how this one works. On the stand, after one turn of the cable adjuster, it was clicking nicely from gear to gear. I’m not a great fan of downtube shifters but these worked really nice. The turkey lever DiaCompe brakes had a solid feel to the accessory lever unlike my old SuperSport, so will stay for now. What were the stock levers? It is hard to find specs for this bike. I think that Blackburn rack is stock with this bike too.
Im not sure how this fits in with my modest collection and wether it is different enough from my 83 Trek to earn some of my limited riding time, but cleanup will be a nice diversion from the world. Actually I’m not sure it needs any parts except maybe some cables and bar tape. The housings seem pretty usable, and I will learn about the cantis. The tires even seemed rideable for now and the 700C wheels were relatively true.
i guess the price while not a steal was decent, as 5 other guys called after me, but the seller gave me first shot. I have been eyeing a 1000LT at the co-op for a year, but it just stayed at 62cm and never shrunk to my size. New projects are fun.
The only other indexing I have is on a vintage steel Bianchi hybrid, so I will see how this one works. On the stand, after one turn of the cable adjuster, it was clicking nicely from gear to gear. I’m not a great fan of downtube shifters but these worked really nice. The turkey lever DiaCompe brakes had a solid feel to the accessory lever unlike my old SuperSport, so will stay for now. What were the stock levers? It is hard to find specs for this bike. I think that Blackburn rack is stock with this bike too.
Im not sure how this fits in with my modest collection and wether it is different enough from my 83 Trek to earn some of my limited riding time, but cleanup will be a nice diversion from the world. Actually I’m not sure it needs any parts except maybe some cables and bar tape. The housings seem pretty usable, and I will learn about the cantis. The tires even seemed rideable for now and the 700C wheels were relatively true.
i guess the price while not a steal was decent, as 5 other guys called after me, but the seller gave me first shot. I have been eyeing a 1000LT at the co-op for a year, but it just stayed at 62cm and never shrunk to my size. New projects are fun.
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Too small I think
Well, I have been spending some recreational wrench time playing with this new purchase. I got it rideable for a test spin, and I think it is just a wee bit too small. I could make it work, but might as well keep my eye out for a replacement.
The BB was toast, so I got some used parts at the co-op. Steerer was in need of new bearings at the fork crown too. Wheel bearing condition was very nice. Middle chain sprocket isn’t great, and it needs a new chain yet. I rebuilt the pedals also which are very nice.
I may list it here for local pickup, or perhaps strip some parts, or hold on to it in case something else comes up that I could switch parts to. The wheels with the 40 spoke rear might be keepers too, as are the pedals. That is half the fun I think. I didn’t want to go too crazy on it until I rode it either way.
The BB was toast, so I got some used parts at the co-op. Steerer was in need of new bearings at the fork crown too. Wheel bearing condition was very nice. Middle chain sprocket isn’t great, and it needs a new chain yet. I rebuilt the pedals also which are very nice.
I may list it here for local pickup, or perhaps strip some parts, or hold on to it in case something else comes up that I could switch parts to. The wheels with the 40 spoke rear might be keepers too, as are the pedals. That is half the fun I think. I didn’t want to go too crazy on it until I rode it either way.