Rdytoroll

I am trying to locate a reasonably priced new or gently used 700C wheelset for a 10-15 year old Scott Sub 20. It uses an 8 speed cassette and has rim brakes. The wheels need to fit 32C tires. I'm pretty sure the front hub is 100mm and the rear is 130mm. I'm not very concerned about the weight of the wheels.

My first choice would be Shimano WH-R501 700C Wheelset except those do not seem to be readily available. I am able to find wheelsets that specify 10-11 speeds or for narrower tires but none to meet my requirements.

I have searched Ebay, Cragslist and all the online sellers with no luck. Maybe it is due to the age of the bike or maybe I'm having a problem due to high demand and/or supply chains are not functioning because of the pandemic. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

cpach

10 speed freehub body is exactly the same as 8 speed. 11 speed is the same as 10 speed for mountain, and for road will require a 1.8mm spacer behind the cassette to use an 8-10sp cassette. All else being equal a 8-10 speed hub will build a stronger wheel than an 11 speed hub because the bracing angles of the spokes are less asymetrical. For a 32mm tire anything with a rim width >16mm will be fine, though 18-24mm would be better. I'd double check the rear spacing--I googled the Scott Sub 20 and it looks like it's a hybrid, which more commonly used 135mm rear spacing. In either case either 130 or 135mm spaced, rim brake wheels with not-narrow rims and 8-10sp freewheels are plentiful, I think you're just got caught up on them being "10 speed".

Shimano system wheels are very nice for what they are, but if you're not super concerned about weight and aerodynamics any low spoke count wheel is going to be less reliable than one built with a conventional number of spokes (32 or 36).

Rdytoroll

Thanks Yes I would rather have a higher spoke count wheel. I may be confused by the specs for some of the wheels because some list 8-10 speed and others only list 10-11 speed. Yes it's a hybrid bike so nothing fancy. I'm just looking for some reliable wheels. I am concerned if my rear wheel spacing is 130 or 135, I assumed it is 130 but could be wrong how can I be sure of the size? Just measure the wheel? I have been riding for many years and this is my first time buying a wheelset so I am probably a bit confused. Are there any specific ones you could list just to get me on the right path.

Edit ********** I just measured the rear wheel spacing it is 135mm thanks for pointing that out.

Rdytoroll

So I found these, should work. When you mentioned rim width >16mm will be fine, though 18-24mm would be better. Is that internal or external?
https://www.modernbike.com/quality-w...m-700c-shimano
https://www.modernbike.com/quality-w...m-700c-shimano

cpach

16 external would be crazy thin, I meant 16 internal, which is on the narrow side for new wheel these days. Mostly you just want to avoid older road wheels with like 13mm internal profiles.

Linked wheels are a pretty good deal. Q wheels are machine built, but to a pretty reasonable standard. In an ideal case they'd have some finishing stress relieving, truing, and tensioning by a human, but you can probably ride them out of the box and they'll be fine. Hubs will come a touch tight, ideally you'd want to adjust them.

dsbrantjr

​​​​​​​Those rims are drilled for Presta valves, so be sure to have appropriate tubes on hand.

mrrabbit 

Why does this feel like another wheel house promotion thread?

=8-|

Rdytoroll

Just a noob trying to replace some worn wheels. Not trying to promote anyone/anything. Got it on the presta valves. Seems like most 700c wheels are narrow at 18mm. Can I go with 29" wheels that seem to run wider? Are 700c and 29" wheels and tires interchangeable?


Would something like this be a good choice for a casual cyclist? Would these be a better choice than the previous pair I linked?
https://www.modernbike.com/product-2126274630
https://www.modernbike.com/quality-w...ffhanger-black

mrrabbit 

Do you know what 622 x ## means?

=8-)

Rdytoroll

I do now, like I said a noob learning as I go. Seems like bicycle wheels and the many variations can be confusing.

70sSanO

For 32c tires on a street hybrid/commuter, any width will work. Your tires are only 1-1/4" wide. 17mm internal width was common with 2" wide tires at one time.

Personally, I'd look for some CR18 wheels. They are cheap, relatively bulletproof, and you can get them in 135mm rim brake.

John

Edit Added: I have no clue about this seller, but for an XT wheelset, this has the makings of a too good to be true or a really great deal...

https://bicyclewheelwarehouse.com/Su...-135mm-QR.html

Rdytoroll

Thanks for the recommendation. Funny thing, I just placed an order for some CR18's a little while ago.

70sSanO

I added a link to some pretty nicely spec'd wheels. I didn't see your latest post that you had bought some.

John

Rdytoroll

Thanks those seem like a great deal, unfortunately they appear to be for for disc not rim brakes. Looks like the CR18 can be used for both types. I'm still open to suggestions.

Edit******** that site appears to have some good 29" options for v brakes that I could go with. My worn out Scott wheels are an aero rim. I like the look but it appears all my choices are for a lower profile rim.

70sSanO

You could use a Shimano centerlock rotor on the hubs if you had a disc brake setup.

CR18 rims are V-brake rims. There are no rims designed for both.

But you need to get what you feel is best.

John

Rdytoroll

According to the site they can be used with my v brakes. We're building these wheels with Shimano Deore XT 6-bolt disc QR hubs. Since the Sun CR18 rim is V-brake compatible, these wheels are thusly both V-brake and disc brake compatible.

I will seriously consider these wheels. It appears that these are hand made as opposed to most of the wheels that I have been looking at that are machine made. Thanks.
https://bicyclewheelwarehouse.com/Su...-135mm-QR.html

70sSanO

I'd call them to make sure exactly what you are getting, or even if they are still available. XT-756 is an older numbering series, so you need to check with them first. As I said earlier great deal or too good to be true.

John

Rdytoroll

I sent them an email they replied and directed me to another wheel set, below, without explaining why. I think I need to pass on them.
https://bicyclewheelwarehouse.com/Ro...wheel-set.html

dedhed

That hub would be 130mm OLD

Rdytoroll

Thanks for the heads up. I decided not to order from those guys anyway.

Rdytoroll

FWIW I decided to go with the Wheel Master 700c Velocity Chukker 36 Hole T610 Series Black Wheelset. I especially like that they are the 32mm Aero style rims. This is the style of rims that the bike has now and I think it looks better than the narrow profile rims.

https://www.modernbike.com/wheel-mas...black-wheelset

70sSanO

Good choice. Make sure hubs are adjusted and greased properly before you use them.

John

Rdytoroll

Thanks. So I should not assume that they are properly greased and adjusted out of the box?

alcjphil

Did you ever measure your dropout spacing to see whether it is 130mm or 135mm?

Rdytoroll

Yes the spacing is 135mm. I believe that is typical for a hybrid. Thanks for asking.