Getting a custom bike
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Getting a custom bike
I finally decided to get a custom bike. For over 10 years I've wanted a Landshark. The builder is in Oregon. He specializes in custom steel bikes and with unique interesting bike jobs. The paint is part of the build and basically if you design it, he will try and paint it.
The fitting went well. It took over 4 hours but I believe its as close to perfect as can be. The interesting news is that the new custom bike will be very similar to my current road bike. Other than a too long top tube, most of the other measurements were the same. I just have ot decide on the components etc (My plan is Ultegra 6600 with a Dura Ace 2730 crank in order to keep things "shiny silver". I think a classic look and color will go best with my paint scheme. This is just a representation - I am still trying to get the colors right. The design is suppose to represent a clear blue sky and wild roses...
The basic bike concept:
The design close up:
Any thoughts???
The fitting went well. It took over 4 hours but I believe its as close to perfect as can be. The interesting news is that the new custom bike will be very similar to my current road bike. Other than a too long top tube, most of the other measurements were the same. I just have ot decide on the components etc (My plan is Ultegra 6600 with a Dura Ace 2730 crank in order to keep things "shiny silver". I think a classic look and color will go best with my paint scheme. This is just a representation - I am still trying to get the colors right. The design is suppose to represent a clear blue sky and wild roses...
The basic bike concept:
The design close up:
Any thoughts???
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Do you know what tube set he uses? Will it be a lugged frame?
Looks like quite a treat you have in store for yourself - I am green.
Looks like quite a treat you have in store for yourself - I am green.
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You'll stand out -
I assume you are a woman.
If not you'll really stand out.
+1 on the Landshark custom.
You've gotta follow up with pics & ride report of the finished product.
I assume you are a woman.
If not you'll really stand out.
+1 on the Landshark custom.
You've gotta follow up with pics & ride report of the finished product.
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If you don't have a pink helmet I think one is in order to go with that bike. Which steel is he making your bike from? I went to the Landshark site and looked at the options. I think I would ask how the one below from his website compares to Reynolds 853. It probably is as least as good as the 853 but you won't know if you don't ask.
If you are paying for the custom fit, you might as well pay a little more for the higher grade steel and get a little less weight and a better ride. I think I would also go with the better rear triangle too, if it doesn't drive the price up too much.
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Premium quality heat-treated
micro-alloy butted steel. Superlight
with excellent ride quality and stiffness.
If you are paying for the custom fit, you might as well pay a little more for the higher grade steel and get a little less weight and a better ride. I think I would also go with the better rear triangle too, if it doesn't drive the price up too much.
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Premium quality heat-treated
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I had a Landshark in 1990-91, they were made in Pacoima, California then. Andy Hampsten rode a Pacoima Landshark in the Giro di Italia.
Mine was plain grey and Prestige tubing. Soft ride but waaay to whippy for me. I sold it to a lighter friend and he crashed it and sent it to John to be fixed and had a wild paint job put on it then. He still has it but doesn't use it anymore.
I always thought John was a good guy but I'm not all that impressed with the bikes.
Mine was plain grey and Prestige tubing. Soft ride but waaay to whippy for me. I sold it to a lighter friend and he crashed it and sent it to John to be fixed and had a wild paint job put on it then. He still has it but doesn't use it anymore.
I always thought John was a good guy but I'm not all that impressed with the bikes.
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If you don't have a pink helmet I think one is in order to go with that bike. Which steel is he making your bike from? I went to the Landshark site and looked at the options. I think I would ask how the one below from his website compares to Reynolds 853. It probably is as least as good as the 853 but you won't know if you don't ask.
If you are paying for the custom fit, you might as well pay a little more for the higher grade steel and get a little less weight and a better ride. I think I would also go with the better rear triangle too, if it doesn't drive the price up too much.
DEDACCIAI Less-Than Zero
Premium quality heat-treated
micro-alloy butted steel. Superlight
with excellent ride quality and stiffness.
If you are paying for the custom fit, you might as well pay a little more for the higher grade steel and get a little less weight and a better ride. I think I would also go with the better rear triangle too, if it doesn't drive the price up too much.
DEDACCIAI Less-Than Zero
Premium quality heat-treated
micro-alloy butted steel. Superlight
with excellent ride quality and stiffness.
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Not sure I completely understand. Is this bike frame going to be made to your specs? Or are you taking an existing frame and fitting it to you with custom paint? I think one of the most important aspects of a custom frame is the ratio of chainstay length to front center. Depending on where your saddle is relative to the bottom bracket and how much saddle to bar drop you have will determine how you balance on a bike. I think the perfect bike puts you knee over the pedal spindle while your weight is balanced such that there is little weight on the hands while riding.
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Landsharks are great bikes and the ones that I have seen with "fancy" paint jobs have been spectacular -- your bike will look fantastic.
Might look good with a pink Chris King headset.
Might look good with a pink Chris King headset.
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Not sure I completely understand. Is this bike frame going to be made to your specs? Or are you taking an existing frame and fitting it to you with custom paint? I think one of the most important aspects of a custom frame is the ratio of chainstay length to front center. Depending on where your saddle is relative to the bottom bracket and how much saddle to bar drop you have will determine how you balance on a bike. I think the perfect bike puts you knee over the pedal spindle while your weight is balanced such that there is little weight on the hands while riding.
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I'm sorry but whenever I hear the words land shark I hear a knock on the door, the misic from Jaws and think.....Pizza......FLowers
Enjoy the bike.
Enjoy the bike.
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Did you deisgn the print or was that one that was offered. It's rather nice.
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First off - NO PINK HELMET... that would be too girly... I really am not the pink type of gal... I like blue. However in order to keep with my theme, pink was necessary. I have a thing for California's wild roses. Plus it is a good highlight color for the blue and green on the bike.
I am getting:
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Premium quality heat-treated micro-alloy butted steel. Superlight with excellent ride quality and stiffness. Fully fillet brazed with multiple tube diameters, wall thicknesses and shapes. Cost $1695
* * *
I already have the Component set (Ultegra 6600) however the crank is too long (172.5) so I am ordering a Dura-Ace 7830 crank in a 170mm length. Also, the bike is truly custom, I use a mountain bike rear cassette and derailleur. I am getting the new XO milled cassette along with an XT derailleur. Yes this bike is a triple, a hill climber since I like to do mountains and stuff.
I am working on finalizing the design while the bike shop comes up with the price for the bike (=gulp= scary!!!) Thankfully I already had some big ticket items like the components and wheels.
And yes... the name Landshark comes from the old SNL skit. I like to think it's because once I get it, I will be eating up my road competition!
Hopefully I will have the bike my summer...
I am getting:
DEDACCIAI Less-Than Zero
Premium quality heat-treated micro-alloy butted steel. Superlight with excellent ride quality and stiffness. Fully fillet brazed with multiple tube diameters, wall thicknesses and shapes. Cost $1695
* * *
I already have the Component set (Ultegra 6600) however the crank is too long (172.5) so I am ordering a Dura-Ace 7830 crank in a 170mm length. Also, the bike is truly custom, I use a mountain bike rear cassette and derailleur. I am getting the new XO milled cassette along with an XT derailleur. Yes this bike is a triple, a hill climber since I like to do mountains and stuff.
I am working on finalizing the design while the bike shop comes up with the price for the bike (=gulp= scary!!!) Thankfully I already had some big ticket items like the components and wheels.
And yes... the name Landshark comes from the old SNL skit. I like to think it's because once I get it, I will be eating up my road competition!
Hopefully I will have the bike my summer...
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Not sure I completely understand. Is this bike frame going to be made to your specs? Or are you taking an existing frame and fitting it to you with custom paint? I think one of the most important aspects of a custom frame is the ratio of chainstay length to front center. Depending on where your saddle is relative to the bottom bracket and how much saddle to bar drop you have will determine how you balance on a bike. I think the perfect bike puts you knee over the pedal spindle while your weight is balanced such that there is little weight on the hands while riding.
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I thought about the pink CK headset... I am going with silver CK (to match my silver CK wheels) ... I want the bike to look classic so the stem, seat tube, headset and components will be shiny silver - I want the paint job to stand out. Of course if John's does a bad job I might want to bling it up a bit.
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mine... so if it turns out awful I have only myself to blame!!!
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Pamestique: looks like a great plan with lots of details nailed down. We need final photos when it's finished, of course.
Do you have any clue how they finish the paint based on your design? Do they create a template and then repeat the pattern all over the bike? Or is it done by hand somehow?
Do you have any clue how they finish the paint based on your design? Do they create a template and then repeat the pattern all over the bike? Or is it done by hand somehow?
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I do have experience with John's work since I have many friends with his bikes. Interesting note: I have wanted a Landshark for 12 years. I referred all my friends who got one (or in the case my BF - 2). I just kept waiting thinking the money would be spent better elsewhere... it still could, but oh well...
Anyway, John does alot of work by hand - using an airbrush. Strange his website does not show some of his really beautiful paint jobs - alot of blended colors and processes, adding sparkle and shimmer. Recently, like the last few years I think he has started to use printed stencils more. He could do that with my roses but I prefer he attempt to paint them - I want it to look more Monet than graphic. He can and does lay down many levels of color and design. The paint takes months to harden so it's not like I will be riding it right away. I will be having my current bike adjusted to match the fitting so I can use that in the meantime. Nice thing is John will redo the paint job for $425. Right now it is "free" with the build.
Anyway, John does alot of work by hand - using an airbrush. Strange his website does not show some of his really beautiful paint jobs - alot of blended colors and processes, adding sparkle and shimmer. Recently, like the last few years I think he has started to use printed stencils more. He could do that with my roses but I prefer he attempt to paint them - I want it to look more Monet than graphic. He can and does lay down many levels of color and design. The paint takes months to harden so it's not like I will be riding it right away. I will be having my current bike adjusted to match the fitting so I can use that in the meantime. Nice thing is John will redo the paint job for $425. Right now it is "free" with the build.
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Yes, I am but also having those second thoughts... so much money!!!!
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However I would ask for the name of the maker of the steel - typically should be columbus or reynolds. Since it is a steel frame you will need to worry a bit about rust. There is a treatment called frame saver which they can apply to prevent rust from the inside. Another option would be to insist on one of the new stainless tube sets from ccolumbus (XCr) or reynolds (953). My steel bike is much older, vintage ~1995 but it was nickle plated and therefore will not rust out. If you are in a real dry climate you may not have a lot to worry about.
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I think the paint job will come out just fine. Although I think if I had that bike I'd ride around with it wrapped in bubble wrap so not to get a ding in it.
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Pam, it sounds like it's going to be a fantastic (and beautiful) bike. You'll enjoy it for many years and many miles.
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Are you getting a matching tattoo? Don't worry about cost. If you spend a lot of time on that bike (and I'm sure that you will) it will be a lot cheaper than the $10 you spend on something you never use!
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Not that I missed the line - just did not recognize it as a tubing type, my ignorance. I did a little search but didn't come up with much, it does appear to make a very low weight steel frame. What that tells me is that it is most likely a very good material.
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Pam............to paraphrase the add...................."your going to like the way it looks on you." Nice bike, nice equipment fit.........and you will always know that you took part in making it unique and special.
While I don't use custom frames, I do build my own bikes so that everything on them is just as I want it to be.
I thought you were a mountain bike girl though........oh well, that's ok.
While I don't use custom frames, I do build my own bikes so that everything on them is just as I want it to be.
I thought you were a mountain bike girl though........oh well, that's ok.
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