Runners... trying to get faster... lengthen my stride or turn 'em over faster?
05-18-12, 10:12 PM
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Hmm.. Good idea... I have enough empiracal data to line it up pretty close...
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with lengthening your stride. Fast athletes use longer strides AND the 180 turnover to be faster than mere mortals. Otherwise everyone would be running the same speed.
Saying that only turnover matters is similar to saying everyone should spin like Lance.
Saying that only turnover matters is similar to saying everyone should spin like Lance.
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The better way to improve is to run with someone who runs a faster pace than you. Intervals do play a significant rule but running with someone else who is "better" is the key. To stay up with the other runner, you will notice a pickup in your own pace and eventually the stride will come naturally.
But I do say stride does increase and it does even more when you get a distance runner to do 400 meter training with those runners. By "those runners" I mean those who compete in the 400 meters.
But I do say stride does increase and it does even more when you get a distance runner to do 400 meter training with those runners. By "those runners" I mean those who compete in the 400 meters.
06-03-12, 10:42 AM
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with lengthening your stride. Fast athletes use longer strides AND the 180 turnover to be faster than mere mortals. Otherwise everyone would be running the same speed.
Saying that only turnover matters is similar to saying everyone should spin like Lance.
Saying that only turnover matters is similar to saying everyone should spin like Lance.
It is however, wrong to think "I'm going to lengthen my stride to run faster." A person seeking to run faster should do the things I was talking about, and as they develop the aerobic and muscular capacity to run faster, their stride will naturally get longer and faster as a natural result.
If you've only got so much engine and so much muscle, just lengthening your stride is not the right answer. Fast athletes are fast because they have huge engines, typically small builds and proper muscle that they've developed over time.
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^^ That.
Do not alter your stride deliberately (consciously?). You will injure and will have to sit out weeks or months even. Keep running and the improvements will come.
Do not alter your stride deliberately (consciously?). You will injure and will have to sit out weeks or months even. Keep running and the improvements will come.
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I've been running about 1-1/2 years and just started biking. I have downloaded music at 180 and 90 beats per minute. I run to the music and pick up my pace when I run intervals. I run the same cadence with my tempo and long run, but adjust the stride. Over striding is a common problem so don't try and do to much the 1st time out. Build up to in. I have a gps watch and attempt to run at a steady speed and keep the same cadence and increase my stride.
I have been biking for many years... playing with some of the shorter duathlons and triatlons. I quite enjoy them, but MAN, my run is weak!
I have been working on the run for about 18 months, mostly after strength training on a treadmill. I run the treadmill at a 0.5% grade to help comensate for the lack of wind resistance (etc.) and find it great for setting a pace so I can push myself. I struggle to hold the same pace outside. I am pretty good at 7.8 to 8.1 mph on the treadmill for extended runs (10k), but outside I am consistently coming in about 7 to 7.2 MPH.
Tonight I went out with the sole intent of lengthening every stride (instead of moving my feet faster). In my brain, it seems more like running a taller gear on the bike, rather than spinning faster in the shorter gear. I came in about 7.2 MPH, so cant say if it helped, but I dont feel nearly as tired... also, I went out at the "last minute" right after eating a turkey burger and sweet potato fries... not an ideal cargo to carry for 3.2 miles.
Any runners have an opinion on lenghtening the stride (vs. "spinning") to gain speed?
I have been working on the run for about 18 months, mostly after strength training on a treadmill. I run the treadmill at a 0.5% grade to help comensate for the lack of wind resistance (etc.) and find it great for setting a pace so I can push myself. I struggle to hold the same pace outside. I am pretty good at 7.8 to 8.1 mph on the treadmill for extended runs (10k), but outside I am consistently coming in about 7 to 7.2 MPH.
Tonight I went out with the sole intent of lengthening every stride (instead of moving my feet faster). In my brain, it seems more like running a taller gear on the bike, rather than spinning faster in the shorter gear. I came in about 7.2 MPH, so cant say if it helped, but I dont feel nearly as tired... also, I went out at the "last minute" right after eating a turkey burger and sweet potato fries... not an ideal cargo to carry for 3.2 miles.
Any runners have an opinion on lenghtening the stride (vs. "spinning") to gain speed?
