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#426
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You should've gone with a 58. This bike is built along similar lines to older steel bikes. There is nothing funky about it's geometry, like trying to make is similar to modern compacts. 56cm frames have always tended to be "square". In other words, 56cm frames have a 56cm ST, along with a 56cm TT, or they are very close. Below this, the TT is proportionately longer, and above this the TT is shorter.
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#428
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If durability is a concern, I'd probably get a quill with a rising extension rather than a threadless adapter. Should improve strength for the same reasons and would keep the build simple.
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#429
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That setup looks worse than it may be because of the type of stem you have - if you get a 1"-to-1-1/8"converter and mount a more modern stem (pictured) it won't seem as severe and will have greater strength/safety than an old 22.2 quill jacked up that high... In the days of old I saw a stems like that break when the guy had it out of the frame that high - basically the internal expander bolt will be the only thing saving your bacon at that point, with basically no steering left.
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I might take my chances. It's a heavy part in an ancient product line made specifically for ridiculous height by a reputable manufacturer, and I'm not even close to its specified limits.
If durability is a concern, I'd probably get a quill with a rising extension rather than a threadless adapter. Should improve strength for the same reasons and would keep the build simple.
If durability is a concern, I'd probably get a quill with a rising extension rather than a threadless adapter. Should improve strength for the same reasons and would keep the build simple.
#431
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edit:
Here's the current stem setup.
And here's what the bike came with.
(Although I suppose the force is more perpendicular in the new case, probably offsetting the benefit of a shorter lever.)
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By the way you guys are right, I'm dumb.
I rotated the fit forward. Saddle position is extremely close to not being UCI legal, heheh... but it seems to work, and is much more track-bike-ish than before.
I rotated the fit forward. Saddle position is extremely close to not being UCI legal, heheh... but it seems to work, and is much more track-bike-ish than before.
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Actually I did, but this thread is co-titled "training". My apologies if my bars are inappropriate for this forum area.
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#444
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Classy frame, personally I'm much rather see it looking something like this. But I am a bit of a traditionalist.
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Nothing wrong with the bike at all. Just realize that if you're racing on the track (and in some places training in groups), you will only be allowed to ride the track with those bars if it's a Time Trial. Group racing (and training at most tracks) requires that you have drop bars mounted.
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Scotti, technically, those bars are legal for time trials only. Not group races or even group warmup. Basically, anywhere you will see modern aero bars.
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Anyway, I appreciate the advice. Jealous of you guys (gals)!
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The Visp in racing trim
Threw on my old racing wheels, so I can use it tomorrow at my state masters track championship. It's still pretty heavy, but I'm going mainly to show support for the promoter who is including older age groups. Also, the junior and youth championships are on a separate date, so I don't have to worry about some squirrely kid taking me out while I warm up on the track. I've geared it pretty low (47 x 15) for the standing 500m TT so I don't blow out my aging knees. I haven't ridden the track in three years, so hopefully I'll remember how to turn left.