Sekine world's finest bicycle?
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Here's the Sekine ladie's utility bike I found recently. It's seen a lot of use and abuse, judging by the paint, the seat post has rusted into the tube, and the rear brake cable is missing. Other than that, it is a very smooth operating bike, with many Shimano parts. I'm guessing that it is from the late 70's. The number from the frame is EV11799, and there is a faded 'Made in Canada' sticker on the seat tube. Could anyone help me to get a more accurate year?
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Hey, everyone. I picked up this bike for free on Craigslist in the hopes of changing it into a bike that I can use to zip around town, since at times I'd like to go faster than I can on my hybrid, and it'd totally suck if my roadie got stolen. Might look into a singlespeed/fixed gear, since that might simplify and cheapen things.
It looks in pretty bad shape, and I can't believe the person I got it from was still riding it to work. He only stopped after the front tube totally burst, but there's plenty of other problems from brakes and cables (Among other things) being all rusted to spokes in the wheels being detached and flailing all over the place.
Those are the main patches of rust on the frame, so I'm hoping it's nothing significant. It's one of the Made in Canada models, and it's got the rhinestone badge on the head tube, so I'm guessing it's one of the lower end models. Serial number is A11 5615.
It looks in pretty bad shape, and I can't believe the person I got it from was still riding it to work. He only stopped after the front tube totally burst, but there's plenty of other problems from brakes and cables (Among other things) being all rusted to spokes in the wheels being detached and flailing all over the place.
Those are the main patches of rust on the frame, so I'm hoping it's nothing significant. It's one of the Made in Canada models, and it's got the rhinestone badge on the head tube, so I'm guessing it's one of the lower end models. Serial number is A11 5615.
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I found this board and thread looking for info on this bike for sale in Vancouver. All this history is fascinating.
https://vancouver.craigslist.org/bik/408632742.html
Can anyone identify it?
Some info: what looks to be Medialles badge, down tube shifters, rear derailleur is a Shimano Lark (early 70's according to sheldonbrown.com), and chromed fork tips.
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https://vancouver.craigslist.org/bik/408632742.html
Can anyone identify it?
Some info: what looks to be Medialles badge, down tube shifters, rear derailleur is a Shimano Lark (early 70's according to sheldonbrown.com), and chromed fork tips.
thanks
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Sekine city gallery?
[The thread bumps.]
It is the thread that won't die, and there's something that might interest a few of you on here.
I carry a digital camera with me pretty much everywhere I go now. One of the projects I've been working on since the fall began is photographing every single Sekine that I stumble across (and every 70s-era Canadian-built Peugeots, since I'm on the search for a very specific model/colour that I hope to convince the owner to one day sell, but that's for another thread).
For the Sekine frames, I tend to shoot two features: the whole bike where I found it parked, and the serial series on the bottom bracket.
It started out as an accidental project after one of my Sekines was stolen in hopes that I might run across it (close call once, but no cigar). But what's come of it since has been nothing short of amazing (to me, at least). I've seen plenty of SHAs (a couple in sad shape), a couple of nicely cared-for SHBs, many SHCs (with the wide-type labelling), a handful of SHCs (with the art deco labelling), and at least a couple of SHS/SHTs -- but no SHXs (that I'm aware of). I've found one SHA-based women's frame and one SHA-based mixte, too.
I've yet to find one exactly like my 25" SHC forest(?) green daily rider, but I've come close: a beat-up 23" like mine (with the art deco label). But there's a tiny detail difference: my frame lacks that heart-shaped, frame-welded piece upon which the shifters rest, while the 23" beater has it -- as do most Sekines I run across. Does anyone know whether that helps pin down the vintage of the bike? Anyway, I've run into that particular bike in a couple of places, and I've taken advantage of capturing both bikes in the same shot.
If I were to go through my photos and make them a little less large, would there be any interest in posting a gallery of them here on this thread? Or should this thread go dead?
It is the thread that won't die, and there's something that might interest a few of you on here.
I carry a digital camera with me pretty much everywhere I go now. One of the projects I've been working on since the fall began is photographing every single Sekine that I stumble across (and every 70s-era Canadian-built Peugeots, since I'm on the search for a very specific model/colour that I hope to convince the owner to one day sell, but that's for another thread).
For the Sekine frames, I tend to shoot two features: the whole bike where I found it parked, and the serial series on the bottom bracket.
It started out as an accidental project after one of my Sekines was stolen in hopes that I might run across it (close call once, but no cigar). But what's come of it since has been nothing short of amazing (to me, at least). I've seen plenty of SHAs (a couple in sad shape), a couple of nicely cared-for SHBs, many SHCs (with the wide-type labelling), a handful of SHCs (with the art deco labelling), and at least a couple of SHS/SHTs -- but no SHXs (that I'm aware of). I've found one SHA-based women's frame and one SHA-based mixte, too.
I've yet to find one exactly like my 25" SHC forest(?) green daily rider, but I've come close: a beat-up 23" like mine (with the art deco label). But there's a tiny detail difference: my frame lacks that heart-shaped, frame-welded piece upon which the shifters rest, while the 23" beater has it -- as do most Sekines I run across. Does anyone know whether that helps pin down the vintage of the bike? Anyway, I've run into that particular bike in a couple of places, and I've taken advantage of capturing both bikes in the same shot.
If I were to go through my photos and make them a little less large, would there be any interest in posting a gallery of them here on this thread? Or should this thread go dead?
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Dont let it die. I would love to see those pics .They dont have to be all at once, just to keep the interest up. After all ,thats what were here for. Sekine has a great history and story. Im a proud owner of a $15 sekine that I commuted on through two Canadian winters. Take Care
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Once-upon-a-time also had C. Itoh, but it was white.
If I recall, it had a similar saying on the top tube like the Sekine but cannot remember the right wording.
Some guy liked that Itoh, so sold it, at a profit.
If I recall, it had a similar saying on the top tube like the Sekine but cannot remember the right wording.
Some guy liked that Itoh, so sold it, at a profit.
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Sekine street gallery
[Is there a way to reduce display size from within bikeforums.net? I wanted to resize these to 800x600, but the IMG tags don't seem to allow for options. Thanks.]
OK, I'm going to post a couple here now, and every once in awhile, I'll add another to the thread. That way, it'll give you all a chance to not get too overwhelmed all at once. This post will feature two photos, because the first is a shot of my bike next to the closest "sibling" I've run into around town:
Shot last Thursday at university. My bike, the "Great Space Coaster", is the 25-inch, "lime green" SHC model in front, leaned against the more beat-up, fork-modified 23" SHC sibling model that I often run into around town. It's probably a year newer, based on one frame feature that mine lacks: the heart-shaped welded bit along the downtube which "supports" the Shimano Fingertip shifters.
And I think I might have the serial series for the other bike, but it's buried in other photos from probably back in September [my bike's serial begins with Z, so I think that's either 1975 or 1976, give or take]. It'll make an another appearance here later.
One thing I haven't figured out yet is why a minority of Sekines use this art deco type style, whereas all the others use a broad, Eurostile-like type treatment. Sometimes I'll see two models that otherwise look like the same year (based on parts), but the downtube type treatment differs. I've become partial to the art deco ones.
Shot in August. It's the only mixte Sekine I've seen so far, and I'm guessing that they weren't ever that common. And with a colour like "sand", I can totally see why (certainly nothing like the gorgeous offerings by Peugeot from around the same time). This is probably an SHA, given the parts, rear dropouts, and badge.
Dont let it die. I would love to see those pics .They dont have to be all at once, just to keep the interest up. After all ,thats what were here for. Sekine has a great history and story. Im a proud owner of a $15 sekine that I commuted on through two Canadian winters. Take Care
Shot last Thursday at university. My bike, the "Great Space Coaster", is the 25-inch, "lime green" SHC model in front, leaned against the more beat-up, fork-modified 23" SHC sibling model that I often run into around town. It's probably a year newer, based on one frame feature that mine lacks: the heart-shaped welded bit along the downtube which "supports" the Shimano Fingertip shifters.
And I think I might have the serial series for the other bike, but it's buried in other photos from probably back in September [my bike's serial begins with Z, so I think that's either 1975 or 1976, give or take]. It'll make an another appearance here later.
One thing I haven't figured out yet is why a minority of Sekines use this art deco type style, whereas all the others use a broad, Eurostile-like type treatment. Sometimes I'll see two models that otherwise look like the same year (based on parts), but the downtube type treatment differs. I've become partial to the art deco ones.
Shot in August. It's the only mixte Sekine I've seen so far, and I'm guessing that they weren't ever that common. And with a colour like "sand", I can totally see why (certainly nothing like the gorgeous offerings by Peugeot from around the same time). This is probably an SHA, given the parts, rear dropouts, and badge.
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Nice shot.Check out the forks on your neighbours bike. Looks like upgrades on the wheelset. Nice commuter to buzz around T.O..
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In person, it looks like money was put into the wheels and that fork, but little else on the drivetrain. Actually, wouldn't a straight fork replacement comparatively shorten the wheelbase somewhat, affecting centre of gravity and/or stability? I've thought about improved wheels and maybe repurpose the original large-flange hubs (not on the bike at the moment), or just go with a new hub set, but I would like to retain the original fork. Thoughts?
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1977 sekine
Here are some pics of my "fixed up" sekine. I rode it in it's first triathlon- 43kms! It was slower than the newer roadies, but it was smooth, and I enjoyed the ride!! Happy 30th Birthday!!!
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One thing I haven't figured out yet is why a minority of Sekines use this art deco type style, whereas all the others use a broad, Eurostile-like type treatment. Sometimes I'll see two models that otherwise look like the same year (based on parts), but the downtube type treatment differs. I've become partial to the art deco ones.
Shot in August. It's the only mixte Sekine I've seen so far, and I'm guessing that they weren't ever that common. And with a colour like "sand", I can totally see why (certainly nothing like the gorgeous offerings by Peugeot from around the same time). This is probably an SHA, given the parts, rear dropouts, and badge.
Shot in August. It's the only mixte Sekine I've seen so far, and I'm guessing that they weren't ever that common. And with a colour like "sand", I can totally see why (certainly nothing like the gorgeous offerings by Peugeot from around the same time). This is probably an SHA, given the parts, rear dropouts, and badge.
The mixte in question is an RL30. Mixtes came in the same color options as the standard frame and around this period there were typically 3 or 4, depending on the exact year. The other options would have been blue, red and green. Sekine offered two colors that were somewhat similar, tan and pearlescent gold. Based on the picture, it is difficult to tell which it is. The latter usually looks off-white and is not very attractive, especially if it not kept clean.
It is true that you do not see very many Sekine mixte. We did not carry them at all and only brought them in on request. There were a couple of reasons. First, the Sekine was slightly more expensive than the competition and the female riders who selected mixte tended to be more casual riders where price was the major factor. Secondly, Sekine offered their mixte frame in only one size, whereas several of their competitors offered more than one, and more importantly, often a slightly smaller size.
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This is peculiar. Sekine used a wholly separate model naming regime other than SHx? Do you remember what the other models were, and to which style, size, or time period they were assigned? This isn't anything which I've been able to identify online, so your knowledge here would be valuable.
Also, another note about colours: I've assessed a basic running list of every Sekine colour I've run across so far. Ones conspicuously absent are black* and yellow. Those I've seen:
--> White: mixte, standard women's and standard men's (only in wide-lettered style)
--> Tan: mixte (only in wide-lettered style)
--> off-white/"lemonish"-white: standard men's (only one seen, heavily taped with other colours, no lettering label; reddish-pink-anodized Medialle badge)
--> Bright red: standard men's (in both art deco and wide-lettered style, about a 1:10 ratio of art-deco-to-wide-lettering label frequency)
--> "Royal blue": standard men's (in both; seen three [one being my stolen frame]; 2:1 ratio of labelling frequency; all were SHS/SHT level)
--> "Cobalt" blue: standard men's (seen one, wide-lettering)
--> "Sky" blue: standard men's (seen one [yesterday, actually!], wide-lettering)
--> "Teal"/"peacock" blue: standard men's (seen one, wide-lettering)
--> Bright "lime" green: standard men's (my bike, seen above, along with its "sibling"; 2:1 ratio)
--> "Olive" green metallic: standard men's (seen two, both art-deco lettering)
--> "Forest" green: standard men's (seen one, an SHT, early period model, no lettering present, like removed; distinctly different green compared to the other two greens)
* there was one black model (labelled as "XR 100"), but it was a mysteriously newer, non-Canadian model, possibly 1984 or later. I'll dig up that photo, too, because it looked cheap and strange.
It is true that you do not see very many Sekine mixte. We did not carry them at all and only brought them in on request. There were a couple of reasons. First, the Sekine was slightly more expensive than the competition and the female riders who selected mixte tended to be more casual riders where price was the major factor.
Indeed. As a taller female rider, I find that mixtes have that big drawback, remedied only by a very tall seat post and headset. Which works, but isn't the most suitable solution.
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That tends to make sense. At first, I assumed the wide lettering was intended for the Japanese models. But as I've tallied things with all these photos, the preponderance are the wide letter series, not the art-deco style. Which now makes me think it's the other way around. Still, I've seen at least one, possibly two models with the wide lettering where the markings were not coincident with the "made in Canada" seat tube label.
This is peculiar. Sekine used a wholly separate model naming regime other than SHx? Do you remember what the other models were, and to which style, size, or time period they were assigned? This isn't anything which I've been able to identify online, so your knowledge here would be valuable.
Also, another note about colours: I've assessed a basic running list of every Sekine colour I've run across so far. Ones conspicuously absent are black* and yellow. Those I've seen:
--> White: mixte, standard women's and standard men's (only in wide-lettered style)
--> Tan: mixte (only in wide-lettered style)
--> off-white/"lemonish"-white: standard men's (only one seen, heavily taped with other colours, no lettering label; reddish-pink-anodized Medialle badge)
--> Bright red: standard men's (in both art deco and wide-lettered style, about a 1:10 ratio of art-deco-to-wide-lettering label frequency)
--> "Royal blue": standard men's (in both; seen three [one being my stolen frame]; 2:1 ratio of labelling frequency; all were SHS/SHT level)
--> "Cobalt" blue: standard men's (seen one, wide-lettering)
--> "Sky" blue: standard men's (seen one [yesterday, actually!], wide-lettering)
--> "Teal"/"peacock" blue: standard men's (seen one, wide-lettering)
--> Bright "lime" green: standard men's (my bike, seen above, along with its "sibling"; 2:1 ratio)
--> "Olive" green metallic: standard men's (seen two, both art-deco lettering)
--> "Forest" green: standard men's (seen one, an SHT, early period model, no lettering present, like removed; distinctly different green compared to the other two greens).
--> White: mixte, standard women's and standard men's (only in wide-lettered style)
--> Tan: mixte (only in wide-lettered style)
--> off-white/"lemonish"-white: standard men's (only one seen, heavily taped with other colours, no lettering label; reddish-pink-anodized Medialle badge)
--> Bright red: standard men's (in both art deco and wide-lettered style, about a 1:10 ratio of art-deco-to-wide-lettering label frequency)
--> "Royal blue": standard men's (in both; seen three [one being my stolen frame]; 2:1 ratio of labelling frequency; all were SHS/SHT level)
--> "Cobalt" blue: standard men's (seen one, wide-lettering)
--> "Sky" blue: standard men's (seen one [yesterday, actually!], wide-lettering)
--> "Teal"/"peacock" blue: standard men's (seen one, wide-lettering)
--> Bright "lime" green: standard men's (my bike, seen above, along with its "sibling"; 2:1 ratio)
--> "Olive" green metallic: standard men's (seen two, both art-deco lettering)
--> "Forest" green: standard men's (seen one, an SHT, early period model, no lettering present, like removed; distinctly different green compared to the other two greens).
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Whoa. Cool! I'd love to see a picture of it sometime if you'd like to post one here. Is it the wide-lettering version or the art-deco look?
Also, to you and T-Mar: purportedly, there was also a factory-delivered all-chrome version of the SHS/SHT. Someone much earlier on this thread, I think, posted photos of theirs. I have certainly not seen one of these in person.
Also, to you and T-Mar: purportedly, there was also a factory-delivered all-chrome version of the SHS/SHT. Someone much earlier on this thread, I think, posted photos of theirs. I have certainly not seen one of these in person.
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Here are two more Sekine shots from around the city:
Shot in October. SHC, I'm all but certain. It's a remarkably pretty colour in the sunlight (less so in the dark, the other time I saw the same bike). And with the art-deco lettering vis-a-vis what my frame has, I've become a bit biased (which is amusing, because I never really liked art-deco letter-cut styles before this).
Shot yesterday. A totally unexpected hue to stumble into. I'll go on a limb here: it's definitely an SHB: diamond badge, quick releases on the brakes, and no indication of Canada on the seat tube label (does that sound about right, T-Mar?). [Edit: Actually, I'm not so sure now. It had the same drive train as the red SHA model you identified at the top of this page, T-Mar, but I thought it might have been an SHB due to the brake cable quick-releases. However, the fork was all one colour, and the crank set was like the aforementioned SHA; also, this model had brazed cable guides and 4-digit/2-digit serial, meaning it's likely newer than my non-brazed model (which starts with "Z" and five digits).]
Shot in October. SHC, I'm all but certain. It's a remarkably pretty colour in the sunlight (less so in the dark, the other time I saw the same bike). And with the art-deco lettering vis-a-vis what my frame has, I've become a bit biased (which is amusing, because I never really liked art-deco letter-cut styles before this).
Shot yesterday. A totally unexpected hue to stumble into. I'll go on a limb here: it's definitely an SHB: diamond badge, quick releases on the brakes, and no indication of Canada on the seat tube label (does that sound about right, T-Mar?). [Edit: Actually, I'm not so sure now. It had the same drive train as the red SHA model you identified at the top of this page, T-Mar, but I thought it might have been an SHB due to the brake cable quick-releases. However, the fork was all one colour, and the crank set was like the aforementioned SHA; also, this model had brazed cable guides and 4-digit/2-digit serial, meaning it's likely newer than my non-brazed model (which starts with "Z" and five digits).]
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"If your Sekine says "world's finest bicycle" on the downtube in place of the brand name then it is of Japanese manufacture and is pre-1973." https://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN
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You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve
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That's correct, ilikebikes. T-Mar and another poster mentioned this at the beginning of this thread. The link to that web site you mentioned is a valuable resource for Sekines, mostly because so little information is available elsewhere online.
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Here's a picture of it:
It is a lot different now. Stem has been changed for a longer flatter one. Bars changed out for a less exaggerated version of an arc bar (flat bar with back bend). Mudguards added. I will update the photo at some stage...
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Bikes: Sekine 1974 SHS-271 (dark red) and Sekine 1975 SHL-270 mixte (forest green). Past: Sekine 1974 SHS-271 (forest green; stolen 2013); Peugeot 103 (red mixte, retired); 1974 Sekine SHS-271 (blue, stolen 2007); 1975 Sekine SHC-270 (green, dead).
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[Quickly, I'm becoming a serious Sekine geek, though I'm not sure why.]
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"If your Sekine says "world's finest bicycle" on the downtube in place of the brand name then it is of Japanese manufacture and is pre-1973." https://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN
It says the the low end models had no quick release. Mine does.
And the headbadges don't jive with the model he quoted.