Austro Daimler Ultima- Green
10-10-04, 07:04 AM
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The Puch Ultima was sold in green paint from the year 1981 till 1983. Components in all years Campagnolo Super Record. Frame and Fork Reynolds 531 professional. Sattle in 1981 black Cinelli in 82 and 83 brown Cinelli with leather Handlebar Cover.Enclosed you will find an scanned page of the 1981 Puch Brochure.
The Puch Ultima was sold in green paint from the year 1981 till 1983. Components in all years Campagnolo Super Record. Frame and Fork Reynolds 531 professional. Sattle in 1981 black Cinelli in 82 and 83 brown Cinelli with leather Handlebar Cover.Enclosed you will find an scanned page of the 1981 Puch Brochure.
10-10-04, 07:17 AM
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this is an photo of my Ultima
The frame is an 1982 and I got it last year in nos condition from an old bike dealer. I add an complete set of Shimano Dura ace 2003 Rigida Rimms and an Kinesis Alu Fork. The bike weights 8, 35 kg and runns great.
The frame is an 1982 and I got it last year in nos condition from an old bike dealer. I add an complete set of Shimano Dura ace 2003 Rigida Rimms and an Kinesis Alu Fork. The bike weights 8, 35 kg and runns great.
10-10-04, 07:18 AM
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10-10-04, 07:20 AM
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10-13-04, 08:22 AM
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you took off super record for dura ace? you nuts? or did you just ebay the SR...that might be reasonable...thats a lot of money right there.
10-13-04, 10:14 AM
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Puchultima, please post pictures and/or details, including serial number, frame and fork tubing decals, and components, on your Capo. Mine, as an American export model, came with 27" wheels, Weinmann 999 centerpulls, Campag. Record high-flange hubs and Gran Sport derailleurs, a long-reach GB stem, and Agrati cottered steel cranks. My serial number, on which I base my model year estimate, is 40324. All of the 30th anniversary 1960 Capos I have seen in California have serial numbers in the 452xx or 453xx range; I owned 45211 until the frame failed following a crash repair. Since Harald "Hary Capo" Cap has told me that his father's peak production was around 5K units per year, I figure mine is a late 1958 or a 1959, but we should compare notes. The 1960 Capos also have metal trim pieces brazed to the tops of the seat stays, the rear dropouts, and the top of the sloping Cinelli-style fork crown.
Although all of the Capos I have seen in the U.S. have the venerable diagonally-printed Reynolds 531 butted-frame-forks-and-stays decals and a little Reynolds triangle on one fork blade, one of my friends swears his came with a (now-obliterated) horizontally-printed 531 decal, indicating either straight gauge tubing (his recollection) or 531 main triangle only.
Although all of the Capos I have seen in the U.S. have the venerable diagonally-printed Reynolds 531 butted-frame-forks-and-stays decals and a little Reynolds triangle on one fork blade, one of my friends swears his came with a (now-obliterated) horizontally-printed 531 decal, indicating either straight gauge tubing (his recollection) or 531 main triangle only.
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
10-14-04, 06:14 AM
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I only got the frame nos, no components where installed on it. Now I have the same frame in an other size and I will build this up with Campa SR Parts
I only got the frame nos, no components where installed on it. Now I have the same frame in an other size and I will build this up with Campa SR Parts
10-18-04, 06:16 AM
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Enclosed a view more pictures of the original green ultima from 1982
10-18-04, 08:41 AM
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That's a beauty, Puchultima. Does that frame have the star cutout on the bottom of the bottom bracket?
10-18-04, 11:51 AM
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View of Bottom Braket Housing
10-18-04, 11:08 PM
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That is one beautiful bike. Thanks again for the photos. The Puch and Austro-Daimlers were nice in the day and can be made better with the wheelsets and components available today.
How much does your Ultima weigh vs the factory spec?
How much does your Ultima weigh vs the factory spec?
10-19-04, 12:45 AM
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The factory spec from 1982 is 8.5 Kilos (18 pounds) My Ultima weights full equiped with pedals, bottle cage and spare tire 9,1 Kilos in Frame size 61 cm (24 inches) The frame only weights 1.6 kilos (ca 3 pounds)
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01-07-18, 12:23 PM
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Greetings,
I have a Puch Ultima Mistral SL, which I bought new in 1983, as a frameset only, finished in 'smoked chrome.' Since I worked at the bike shop, "Rainbow Racing" in Athens, Ohio, I had the pick of all the best parts, built my own wheels, and we had a really good team, "Rainbow Velo Sport." 8.7 kg.
I thought I might be able to learn more about this bike, as apparently it's a rare deal, kinda like an old Ferrari? Except it was made in Germany.
I have it on the turbo, which I converted to use the Minoura ICE system, and I only use it in the winter for exercise.
I have a Puch Ultima Mistral SL, which I bought new in 1983, as a frameset only, finished in 'smoked chrome.' Since I worked at the bike shop, "Rainbow Racing" in Athens, Ohio, I had the pick of all the best parts, built my own wheels, and we had a really good team, "Rainbow Velo Sport." 8.7 kg.
I thought I might be able to learn more about this bike, as apparently it's a rare deal, kinda like an old Ferrari? Except it was made in Germany.
I have it on the turbo, which I converted to use the Minoura ICE system, and I only use it in the winter for exercise.
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01-07-18, 01:01 PM
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There are more threads on Austro Daimler than Puch on this site. Lots of info from serial number database references to ride impressions from owners. Both Puch and AD came out of the same Austrian factory. AD was supposedly for 'American-only' distribution, some Puchs must have also made it across the pond.
I really like my early 80s Olympian (531DB f/f), and the Ultima was even higher up the product line. Hopefully yours will see more than trainer duties.
Please give us more detailed frame shots.
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I really like my early 80s Olympian (531DB f/f), and the Ultima was even higher up the product line. Hopefully yours will see more than trainer duties.
Please give us more detailed frame shots.
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Here's a link to '81 Puch catalogue with specifications for each model. Check Bulgier.net for AD catalogues as well.
bulgier.net - /pics/bike/Catalogs/PuchMistral-81(in_German)/
bulgier.net - /pics/bike/Catalogs/PuchMistral-81(in_German)/
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01-07-18, 06:55 PM
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What do you mean by detailed frame shots? To me, it looks like any other frame I've ever seen, except for the Cannondales.
Mine is now a replacement after the chainstay broke in a race. I had it sent back to the factory and they sent me a new frame that is green-on-chrome. The first frame must be what they called, "Mistral Ultima Vent Noir."
Mine is now a replacement after the chainstay broke in a race. I had it sent back to the factory and they sent me a new frame that is green-on-chrome. The first frame must be what they called, "Mistral Ultima Vent Noir."
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01-07-18, 07:42 PM
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Incidentally, when I bought the bike, I was told it was made by a company that was part of the Daimler-Benz corporation, so I always envisioned some guy in a corner room somewhere, with a torch, a pile of tubes, a bottle of wine, and some loud Italian music playing while he brazed tubes into framesets, while cars rolled by. 
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Incidentally, when I bought the bike, I was told it was made by a company that was part of the Daimler-Benz corporation, so I always envisioned some guy in a corner room somewhere, with a torch, a pile of tubes, and some loud Italian music playing while he brazed tubes into framesets.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
01-09-18, 06:42 PM
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OK... so I started with the Mistral Ultima "Vent Noir," but the factory sent me a chromed frame painted green as a replacement. What is the green colour called? Is my current frameset still a Vent Noir? I wasn't aware that they chromed all the Ultima frames, painted, or not.
I never even thought of getting the number from the bottom of the BB; it's bolted to the Turbo.
I used to tell people that the gold accent paint around the lugs was real gold.
The bike and the parts were no nice-looking that I took a close-up photo of the SR rear derailleur and sent copies for Christmas as "picture" postcards.
I never even thought of getting the number from the bottom of the BB; it's bolted to the Turbo.
I used to tell people that the gold accent paint around the lugs was real gold.
The bike and the parts were no nice-looking that I took a close-up photo of the SR rear derailleur and sent copies for Christmas as "picture" postcards.
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