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Old 08-06-15, 11:49 AM
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Show me your Suntour Superbe/Superbe Pro

I've got the itch to look for a nice Japanese frame and some Suntour Superbe or Superbe Pro to dress it with. Show me yours, I'm looking for inspiration.
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Sorry, not Japanese, and a fuzzy picture, too. But a "Superbe" riding and shifting bike, but now someone else's.

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That's easy!

1982 Fuji Professional w/Superbe





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Can not comply but can provide title content. Pinarello with Superbe/Pro.
[IMG]Pinarello Tre Cime, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Well, this one is italian-norwegian (somec sold by Knut knudsen)
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Honestly the stuff is seriously over hyped IMO.

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Originally Posted by SJX426
Can not comply but can provide title content. Pinarello with Superbe/Pro.
[IMG]Pinarello Tre Cime, on Flickr[/IMG]


nice. are you planning to paint that or clearcoat it? I sort of like the soft chrome look. (mine is also this way after I stripped it)
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Totally non-period correct Superbe Pro on my Trek 400 Elance.




I get such a kick out of the top level of machinery on a second from bottom of the line bike- as this pic demonstrates:

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Can I get back to you on this post? I'm still trying to buy back my cannondale black lighting that had beautiful gold anodized suntour superbe pro :-(
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nice timing, love this group
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Originally Posted by jetboy
nice. are you planning to paint that or clearcoat it? I sort of like the soft chrome look. (mine is also this way after I stripped it)
My daughter wants it in fuchsia

[IMG]1987 Fuchsia Pinarello Tre Cime , on Flickr[/IMG]
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Originally Posted by Ex Pres
Sorry, not Japanese, and a fuzzy picture, too. But a "Superbe" riding and shifting bike, but now someone else's.

One very nice 760! Dig the purple. Now I want to get mine out for a ride.
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My Superb group is resting in a plastic shoe box. It is a full kit from a too small mid 1980's Schwinn Peloton.
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I have a set of Superbe pedals. That's it.
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How about an iconic French frame with SP?:









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@OldsCOOL Your bike is inspiring me to pull mine out and start working on it! Now that I have a fork "straightened", it can be assembled. My plan was to do Campy NR, but I believe Suntour Superbe was the build in 1984. I can go one step up with a number of Pro parts.
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I don't own the frame or the components any more, but it fits your bill

3Rensho #1 with Superbe Pro by L Travers, on Flickr
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@OldsCOOL Your bike is inspiring me to pull mine out and start working on it! Now that I have a fork "straightened", it can be assembled. My plan was to do Campy NR, but I believe Suntour Superbe was the build in 1984. I can go one step up with a number of Pro parts.
That would make for a very attractive and well-suited group. By the way, you just cant imagine how smooth and quick these bikes are.
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My Katakura Silk is mainly dressed out with late 1980s Superbe Pro parts: seat post, derailleurs, shift levers, wheel hubs. Brakes did not have enough reach, so I used Campy brakes. Crankset is Super Maxy that I really like.

[IMG]1986 Katakura Silk by bill, on Flickr[/IMG]


Or how about a before picture? I figured we need at least one crusty bike on this discussion.

This is a Kabuki DFD that is mostly Suntour Superbe. Picked it up from a local DKO yesterday. Naturally it has a stuck seat post. Priced accordingly. Stem, bars, crank, RD, shift levers all OK. Brake calipers may be save-able. Good rear wheel.

[IMG]IMG_8847 by bill, on Flickr[/IMG]

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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
Totally non-period correct Superbe Pro on my Trek 400 Elance.




I get such a kick out of the top level of machinery on a second from bottom of the line bike- as this pic demonstrates:

That's a pretty healthy-sized freewheel. How big of a max cog with that RD shift?
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Honestly the stuff is seriously over hyped IMO.

Well in that case, I'd be happy to take it off your hands.
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Well in that case, I'd be happy to take it off your hands.
Maybe down the line...it took me a while to piece it together. I shouldn't have bothered. Frankly it's not as good as the shimano stuff from the same period. It's better than c-record, but that's hardly a ringing endorsement (and I don't even think it's that much better, and it's far uglier). In terms of aesthetics, it's like most Suntour - blocky.
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky
That's a pretty healthy-sized freewheel. How big of a max cog with that RD shift?
Ha! You noticed!

It totally didn't work. The cog teeth were pretty much riding on the pulley teeth. Neat sounds ensued.

I think my smallest big cog is 28- and I haven't been able to get the Superbe to work on a 28- even though many, many sources say it's possible. I actually had trouble with this freewheel and an XC Pro rear derailleur- I know cage length has nothing to do with max cog acceptance... however, this medium cage RD was giving me chattering, like the FW was just a *touch* too big. I re-replaced it with the long cage XC Comp that was originally (not "originally originally") on there- and now it works much nicer.

I'm going to be playing some freewheel games soon.

I've used an XC Comp long cage on a 34T Suntour with no problems. Maybe it was 32... but I'm pretty sure it was 34.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Maybe down the line...it took me a while to piece it together. I shouldn't have bothered. Frankly it's not as good as the shimano stuff from the same period. It's better than c-record, but that's hardly a ringing endorsement (and I don't even think it's that much better, and it's far uglier). In terms of aesthetics, it's like most Suntour - blocky.
Which Shimano stuff? DA?
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Maybe down the line...it took me a while to piece it together. I shouldn't have bothered. Frankly it's not as good as the shimano stuff from the same period. It's better than c-record, but that's hardly a ringing endorsement (and I don't even think it's that much better, and it's far uglier). In terms of aesthetics, it's like most Suntour - blocky.
This perception is part of why these components are ignored by a lot of people. Personally, I really like the blockiness of the rear derailleurs. The XC pro short cage is a fantastic performing component, better in many ways than my modern Ultegra and Dura Ace derailleurs. I have an improvised superbe pro wheelset - an xc 9000 hub in the front and a Superbe Pro accushift 8 speed cassette in the rear. The gears are shifted with 7/8 speed Command Accushift levers. The cranks are dura ace 7410 with Salsa chainrings and Shimano Sante' chainring bolts. Front derailleur is SunTour Cyclone 7000. The chain is an 8 speed stainless steel Wipperman. The 8 speed rear cassette did not exist until a wide range 7 speed got an extra cog and spacer added to it to make it an 8. Not even the last version of accushift cog teeth. The cogs are cut straight with no ramps. Once adjusted, it shifts spot on, much more positive shifting than my other period index shifting bike.
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