Training with a power meter
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What is the purpose of PMax? Initially I thought it was an actual measurement until it changed on me a few times. It seems like the most ridiculous and pointless metric available.
My current PMax is, once again, less than my actual 1 sec max. It's actually less than my 2 sec max! Silliness.
My current PMax is, once again, less than my actual 1 sec max. It's actually less than my 2 sec max! Silliness.
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What is the purpose of PMax? Initially I thought it was an actual measurement until it changed on me a few times. It seems like the most ridiculous and pointless metric available.
My current PMax is, once again, less than my actual 1 sec max. It's actually less than my 2 sec max! Silliness.
My current PMax is, once again, less than my actual 1 sec max. It's actually less than my 2 sec max! Silliness.
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Okay, but the actual definition from trainingpeaks is: Pmax: the maximal power you can generate for a very short period of time (one complete revolution of the pedal stroke).
And that's a bunch of bollocks. It doesn't says it's derived from the pd curve. And when we actually have that max effort, it's pointless. We have our max sprint efforts.
We've got the power duration curve, okay, and we have mFTP, okay again, since that's a longer effort and has the most muddied and nonspecific definition of any other commonly used power term. But why actually have a display on the HERO bar (for WKO) as if it's some pertinent number (to be fair, that can be applied to FRC, TTE, stamina, too) when we have the actual real number.
Not that it really matters. Just one of those things that gets more attention (by default on WKO) than it deserves, in my opinion.
And that's a bunch of bollocks. It doesn't says it's derived from the pd curve. And when we actually have that max effort, it's pointless. We have our max sprint efforts.
We've got the power duration curve, okay, and we have mFTP, okay again, since that's a longer effort and has the most muddied and nonspecific definition of any other commonly used power term. But why actually have a display on the HERO bar (for WKO) as if it's some pertinent number (to be fair, that can be applied to FRC, TTE, stamina, too) when we have the actual real number.
Not that it really matters. Just one of those things that gets more attention (by default on WKO) than it deserves, in my opinion.
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What is the purpose of PMax? Initially I thought it was an actual measurement until it changed on me a few times. It seems like the most ridiculous and pointless metric available.
My current PMax is, once again, less than my actual 1 sec max. It's actually less than my 2 sec max! Silliness.
My current PMax is, once again, less than my actual 1 sec max. It's actually less than my 2 sec max! Silliness.
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To paraphrase RC, the purpose of a model is not so much to make predictions, but to sharpen our questions. If you're not interested in using Pmax for that, no problem; ignore it and leave it for those who find it useful. (but perhaps you might ask yourself if the developers of WKO thought it was important enough to put these parameters on the Hero bar, what am I missing if I think they're worthless?)