Rolling resistance rating effect in tube selection
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Rolling resistance rating effect in tube selection
I’m aware that latex tubes offer a better RR rating over standard tubes, but are there ratings that address how tubes rank like is done with tires ?
Reason I’m asking is I’m curious if there is a non latex tube (being more puncture resistant) with a RR rating similar to latex. Best of both worlds dream?
Reason I’m asking is I’m curious if there is a non latex tube (being more puncture resistant) with a RR rating similar to latex. Best of both worlds dream?
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Not worth thinking about...and as far as I'm concerned latex tubes are more puncture resistant than butyl.
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I’m aware that latex tubes offer a better RR rating over standard tubes, but are there ratings that address how tubes rank like is done with tires ?
Reason I’m asking is I’m curious if there is a non latex tube (being more puncture resistant) with a RR rating similar to latex. Best of both worlds dream?
Reason I’m asking is I’m curious if there is a non latex tube (being more puncture resistant) with a RR rating similar to latex. Best of both worlds dream?
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I’m aware that latex tubes offer a better RR rating over standard tubes, but are there ratings that address how tubes rank like is done with tires ?
Reason I’m asking is I’m curious if there is a non latex tube (being more puncture resistant) with a RR rating similar to latex. Best of both worlds dream?
Reason I’m asking is I’m curious if there is a non latex tube (being more puncture resistant) with a RR rating similar to latex. Best of both worlds dream?
Easier to just go with latex, but if you don't want to deal with pumping everyday, the aerothan are a legit alternative. They're about 1.5 watts slower than latex, but still faster than butyl.
And latex is actually more puncture resistant than butyl... you just have to ensure you setup your wheels correctly and install them correctly as they can wiggle into the tiniest little spots and pop.
https://www.schwalbetires.com/aerothan-tubes
https://www.aero-coach.co.uk/inner-t...ing-resistance
Edited to add: beaten to the punch by both posters!
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Main reason I've switched my road bikes to latex tubes is for comfort. It really tames the chatter on chipseal. Any advantage in rolling resistance is measurable but not perceptible in my rides.
In several months of riding with latex tubes and decent tires on one bike, and butyl tubes and the same tires on another, I don't see any consistent advantages in speed/time on my Strava logs. But I can feel the difference in the bike with latex tubes as soon as I'm rolling. With my busted up neck, back and shoulders from injuries, that extra comfort is worthwhile over longer rides.
Continental Race 28 Light butyl tubes may be close to latex in rolling resistance but seem a bit more puncture prone in my experience. I mostly carry them as spares since I can fit two in the space of a single heavier butyl tire.
I've had one puncture with one Silca labeled latex tube (actually Vittoria, I think). I don't recall the details -- too many punctures last summer. But I was able to patch the latex tube, no problems. I used a self-sticking patch -- Lezyne, I think? It's still chugging along months later. I let it set overnight before riding. Usually I carry butyl tubes to replace tubes on the road and didn't want to fuss with trying to patch my first latex tube on the road.
Check Silca's site for suggested setups with latex -- especially using powder on the tube to ease installation. Silca tubes and some others now come pre-powdered, but any old cornstarch type bath powder will work fine. I neglected the advice to use a tubeless type setup -- plastic rim tape or strip. But eventually I got around to replacing the old cloth rim tape with some kind of plastic stuff from Schwalbe or some other maker. Anyway, it works fine.
In several months of riding with latex tubes and decent tires on one bike, and butyl tubes and the same tires on another, I don't see any consistent advantages in speed/time on my Strava logs. But I can feel the difference in the bike with latex tubes as soon as I'm rolling. With my busted up neck, back and shoulders from injuries, that extra comfort is worthwhile over longer rides.
Continental Race 28 Light butyl tubes may be close to latex in rolling resistance but seem a bit more puncture prone in my experience. I mostly carry them as spares since I can fit two in the space of a single heavier butyl tire.
I've had one puncture with one Silca labeled latex tube (actually Vittoria, I think). I don't recall the details -- too many punctures last summer. But I was able to patch the latex tube, no problems. I used a self-sticking patch -- Lezyne, I think? It's still chugging along months later. I let it set overnight before riding. Usually I carry butyl tubes to replace tubes on the road and didn't want to fuss with trying to patch my first latex tube on the road.
Check Silca's site for suggested setups with latex -- especially using powder on the tube to ease installation. Silca tubes and some others now come pre-powdered, but any old cornstarch type bath powder will work fine. I neglected the advice to use a tubeless type setup -- plastic rim tape or strip. But eventually I got around to replacing the old cloth rim tape with some kind of plastic stuff from Schwalbe or some other maker. Anyway, it works fine.