Comparing Bike Brands to Beer Brands
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Originally Posted by Pitbull
Interesting side note: The Brits LOVE Budweiser. I was drinking with a few visiting Brits from work and they only wanted to go to a bar that serves Bud. I started messing with them and said no bars served Bud b/c Americans don't drink that crap and they got pissed! Authentically pissed! I was floored. Apparently, they can't get enough of it "over there."
Anyone else heard that?
Anyone else heard that?
Bodington's
Guinness
Tetley's
Newcastle
Now that's good beer.
Anyone ever been to the Circus Tavern in Manchester... great place.
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Originally Posted by Hill Climber
When I was in England everyone kept wanting to buy my a Bud. I told them "I don't drink that crap at home, I'm sure not going to drink it here where you've got good beer."
Bodington's
Guinness
Tetley's
Newcastle
Now that's good beer.
Anyone ever been to the Circus Tavern in Manchester... great place.
Bodington's
Guinness
Tetley's
Newcastle
Now that's good beer.
Anyone ever been to the Circus Tavern in Manchester... great place.
I was talking about Brits who love Bud HERE. The same swill WE get from the tap at same dive bars and complain about - they were drinking by the pitcher. They said they liked it because it had "bite." Which technically, when compared to the above (with the exception of Guinness) is true. Bodington's and Newcastle are very mild when compared to Bud.
Anyway, I'm glad there are plenty of beer snobs on here - one more thing we have in common.
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Originally Posted by botto
you can order your guinness 'soft' or 'cold' when you're there. 'soft' being traditional, cool and reasonably cold guiness, and 'cold' being the marketing guys idea to counter dwindling sales of guinness in favor of cold lagers.
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Soma Fab bikes = Anchor Steam. Both made in SF, trendy, and fairly inexpensive.
Now What would you guys compare Litespeed or Merlins to???
Now What would you guys compare Litespeed or Merlins to???
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I think it's the "like what you don't have regularly" effect.
We - as in Americans - don't care so much for Bud/Miller Lite as well because ANYwhere you go into has it. Bods, Guinness, Fosters, etc. has a forbidden fruit type to flare. The same is for the international people. They have those beers at every corner, while American "import" beers are the rage. I remeber when I was in the Navy drinking American beers abroad at foreign bases, it didn't even taste like the stuff you go down to the Kwik Stop and get.
We - as in Americans - don't care so much for Bud/Miller Lite as well because ANYwhere you go into has it. Bods, Guinness, Fosters, etc. has a forbidden fruit type to flare. The same is for the international people. They have those beers at every corner, while American "import" beers are the rage. I remeber when I was in the Navy drinking American beers abroad at foreign bases, it didn't even taste like the stuff you go down to the Kwik Stop and get.
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Another thing... while most Americans think of Corona as the alpha Mexican beer, I have been told most Mexicans think of Corona along the same lines as we think of Milwaukee's Best or something. Personally, I like Sol and Dos XX.
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Cervelo = Fuller's ESB, very fulfilling,
Trek = Samuel Adams Boston Ale...good product that doesn't NEED to be trendy,
My LeMond = Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale, because that's my favourtie beer that I can easily get, and MY LeMond is my favourite bike.
Ridley = Hoegarden (GREAT beer!!), they're both Belgian and very cool.
Cheers,
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Trek = Samuel Adams Boston Ale...good product that doesn't NEED to be trendy,
My LeMond = Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale, because that's my favourtie beer that I can easily get, and MY LeMond is my favourite bike.
Ridley = Hoegarden (GREAT beer!!), they're both Belgian and very cool.
Cheers,
Brian
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Originally Posted by jburnsdo
Soma Fab bikes = Anchor Steam. Both made in SF, trendy, and fairly inexpensive.
Now What would you guys compare Litespeed or Merlins to???
Now What would you guys compare Litespeed or Merlins to???
See, in my experience, Belgium is the Mecca of beer. Belgian ales are unique, artfully crafted, and prohibitively expensive for someone who just wants to drink. These are the truly special beers...
So I kinda feel like Seven, Merlin, Vanilla, BMC, and BH are the Belgian ales of cycling... Exclusive, expensive, but worth every penny if you appreciate the unique flavor.
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Originally Posted by Hill Climber
Another thing... while most Americans think of Corona as the alpha Mexican beer...
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My beer of choice... Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout...
My bike of choice... Aegis Aro Svelte...
The two are relatively obscure from relatively obscure brands but both come from good strong heritage and seem to be well regarded by those who have experienced them.
My bike of choice... Aegis Aro Svelte...
The two are relatively obscure from relatively obscure brands but both come from good strong heritage and seem to be well regarded by those who have experienced them.
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Originally Posted by mollusk
I know I haven't been in England for a while (Scotland doesn't count, of course), but when did this happen?!? Learn something new every day.
the best Scottish beer is without a shadow of a doubt Deuchar's IPA.
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Originally Posted by mollusk
Gotta go the the Wisconsin angle here:
Low end Trek = Hamm's
Middle Trek = Augberger
High end Trek = Sprecher
Low end Trek = Hamm's
Middle Trek = Augberger
High end Trek = Sprecher
Middle trek, I think might be MGD or High Life (gets the job done and everyone drinks/rides it around here)
OCLV Trek is Leinie's. Better than the more mass produced stuff (High Life, Bud etc/Lower end treks, specialized, giants etc but not truly a microbrew/botique bike either).
Anyway, cheers.
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Torelli = Fat tire or Newcastle Brown. So smoooooooth, and delicious.
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Originally Posted by TYB069
Hamm's!!! Nice call. You must have spent some time in WI. I thought only us Sconnies knew about the beer from "the Land of Sky Blue Waters."
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oh, come on...what about FOS (pronounced foz)(F$%*n old style) from the great state of wisconsin=Denali
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Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout...
hmmm haven't tried that one yet...can you find it in Seattle?
hmmm haven't tried that one yet...can you find it in Seattle?
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Originally Posted by cohophysh
Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout...
hmmm haven't tried that one yet...can you find it in Seattle?
hmmm haven't tried that one yet...can you find it in Seattle?
You need to be carful with it though. Because of the clear bottle they skunk really quickly when exposed to the day light for too long. (But it is a tasty "beer.")
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Most of these posts don't make sense. Calling Trek Budweiser is asinine. Discount store bikes would be akin to BMC (BudMillerCoors) products. The worst of those would be equivalent to the malt liquors. Trek would be like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale - just fine, and available everywhere. Other good, but less available bikes would be akin to good American craft beers, average Belgians, etc. The finest and rarest bikes would be comparable to the Trappist ales, the finest lambics, etc. Just saying.
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Originally Posted by khuon
My beer of choice... Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout...
My bike of choice... Aegis Aro Svelte...
The two are relatively obscure from relatively obscure brands but both come from good strong heritage and seem to be well regarded by those who have experienced them.
My bike of choice... Aegis Aro Svelte...
The two are relatively obscure from relatively obscure brands but both come from good strong heritage and seem to be well regarded by those who have experienced them.
I'm going to respectfully suggest a better parallel would be:
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Originally Posted by Hambone
any boutique beer place should have it.
Originally Posted by Hambone
You need to be carful with it though. Because of the clear bottle they skunk really quickly when exposed to the day light for too long. (But it is a tasty "beer.")
Also, give the Taddyporter and Nut Brown Ale a try. Those are also quite yummy. The only downside to Samuel Smith is that they're a tad pricey... yet another reason they are like my Aegis.
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Originally Posted by Hambone
I've ridden one Aegis. If yours is anywhere near as light and bubbly as that thoroughbred...
I'm going to respectfully suggest a better parallel would be:
I'm going to respectfully suggest a better parallel would be:
The interesting thing is that the Aegis Aro Svelte is not an exceptionally light bike frame. No Aegis bikes really are. Compared to some of the ultralight frames out there from other manufacturers, an Aegis is on the heavy side. Many manufacturers view CF materials as a path to achieving the lightest bike possible. However, Aegis' philosophy is to create a durable but well-tuned ride that transfers power efficiently yet provides all-day comfort. They stay away from the highest modulus CF and go for intermediate modulus CF for instance. This gives the bike frame higher strength and greater resistance to impact. They usually use more layers than most CF manufacturers. This is done not only to achieve greater strength and durability but also to tune. Overlapping layers of different bias is one way to tune the behaviour of the CF in that section of the frame. One of their mottos is that their bikes will be the last bike you will ever have to buy so they build them to last and they include some pretty good warranties and crash replacement programs. The reason the bike feels nimble and light is that it's just well designed and the material finely tuned.
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Originally Posted by nocondorfx
so Blatz=??
Schwinn Suburban.
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You're wrong, brother. MHL is delicious....
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Originally Posted by khuon
If I should use that analogy then my wife will want an Aegis. The Framboise is her favourite "beer".
The interesting thing is that the Aegis Aro Svelte is not an exceptionally light bike frame. No Aegis bikes really are. Compared to some of the ultralight frames out there from other manufacturers, an Aegis is on the heavy side. Many manufacturers view CF materials as a path to achieving the lightest bike possible. However, Aegis' philosophy is to create a durable but well-tuned ride that transfers power efficiently yet provides all-day comfort. They stay away from the highest modulus CF and go for intermediate modulus CF for instance. This gives the bike frame higher strength and greater resistance to impact. They usually use more layers than most CF manufacturers. This is done not only to achieve greater strength and durability but also to tune. Overlapping layers of different bias is one way to tune the behaviour of the CF in that section of the frame. One of their mottos is that their bikes will be the last bike you will ever have to buy so they build them to last and they include some pretty good warranties and crash replacement programs. The reason the bike feels nimble and light is that it's just well designed and the material finely tuned.
The interesting thing is that the Aegis Aro Svelte is not an exceptionally light bike frame. No Aegis bikes really are. Compared to some of the ultralight frames out there from other manufacturers, an Aegis is on the heavy side. Many manufacturers view CF materials as a path to achieving the lightest bike possible. However, Aegis' philosophy is to create a durable but well-tuned ride that transfers power efficiently yet provides all-day comfort. They stay away from the highest modulus CF and go for intermediate modulus CF for instance. This gives the bike frame higher strength and greater resistance to impact. They usually use more layers than most CF manufacturers. This is done not only to achieve greater strength and durability but also to tune. Overlapping layers of different bias is one way to tune the behaviour of the CF in that section of the frame. One of their mottos is that their bikes will be the last bike you will ever have to buy so they build them to last and they include some pretty good warranties and crash replacement programs. The reason the bike feels nimble and light is that it's just well designed and the material finely tuned.
The aegis just "seems-light" kind of like framboise. But if you aren't carefull, it'll drop the hammer and you're done.
OK, Ihave beaten this analogy to death.