mountaindave 

mountaindave 

SamSpade1941 

That is my understanding , and it's I do not think a loaded touring bike or even a Grand Touring bike like an Expedition, Miyata 1000, or Trek 720 are especially good choices for Randonneur bikes . From what I understand most of these bikes were really more like racing bikes with a bag on them and less like the American definition of touring bikes. I am probably wrong in more than one way but that's kinda my understanding.

I actually plan to build my Grand Jubile up in more of a Randonneur style versus an actual touring bike because its lighter than my 520 or my LHT and it has a distinct lack of braze ons to meet my litmus of a touring bike. I also have a Soma Stanyan frameset that would probably make a fine Randonneur

SamSpade1941 

Why not Phil Wood hubs ... Aren't they kinda considered the gold standard of bicycle hubs ?

bikemig 

I need to rebuild the rear wheel but my 1993 Bridgestone XO 2 is the bike I keep going back to for long rides especially if the ride includes gravel. It has road geometry but it's built around 26 inch wheels and is an early example of what we would call today a gravel bike. I run it with 26 x 1.75 tires which are comfy on long rides. The bike is set up with generous gearing as well (3 x 8. 44/32/22 and 11-28)

Bandera

I have a 1st generation Stanyan that's been doing good service as my winter/wet bike for the last few seasons.
If a geometry very similar to the classic British club machines and clearance for 700X28 tires with mudguards suit your requirements: Good to Go.

-Bandera

SamSpade1941 

I have the 2018 version , I am under the impression it will accommodate 32's under the fenders and 35's without according to my friend who owns the same bike, Tire sizes that are advertised rarely match up to the actual width though so there is that.

mountaindave 

SamSpade1941 

You missed my question .. . I wasn't asking if they were Wood hubs . I saying why would anyone if they were going the custom route not just buy Wood hubs they are from what I can see superior to any other hub . Even other sealed bearing hubs do not seem to their reputation . I know cost is a factor but I can't imagine Curtis Odom hubs being cheaper .. Then again were cost the issue its gonna be Deore hubs all the way .

Bad Lag

Greetings from a fellow Bob Jackson owner Yours is awesome!
Tell me about the wheels - what tire, what rim, what spokes, what hub, who built them?

mountaindave 

SamSpade1941 

They are pretty .

Nemosengineer 

Hi mountaindave,
Yes, Curtis Odom "Holey" with stainless steel hub centers. California Bicycle in La Jolla Ca. built the wheels, the rims are Mavic A719. I had the pleasure of meeting Curtis at the shop the day I picked them up. Three years later and quite a few miles the wheel set is as true as the day I picked them up.

mountaindave 

Nemosengineer 

Hi Sam,
To answer your question, Phil Wood hubs are top line indestructible parts, I have an old set in a box somewhere, the styling doesn't talk to me, that's all. To me classic bikes are period pieces and there are certain items that define that narrow window of styling/function that define the period or set the tone for the build. For example the 1957 Raleigh Model 57 RRA was inspiration for the "visual feel" for the Bob Jackson, (actually the frame geometry is fairly close), The CO hubs were a natural fit for my bike.



Naturally fenders were always in the plan, Luck was on my side as Honjo made a small run of English pattern fenders that will clear 32 mm tires, I was lucky enough to find a set, a bit of a unicorn as I haven't seen them since.





So that was my thought process behind the selection of parts.
: Mike

mountaindave 

SamSpade1941 

Makes perfect sense especially if you are trying to go with the period correct appearance. Nice bike by the way .

rhm

Funny that you mention the RRA! I had a1948 RRA frame/fork that I loved, but I found myself continually looking for the"correct" parts for it. Lest I become completely OCD about it I decide to sell it. I really liked the way it rode, though. So i carefully measured all the frame angles etc and when the bike was gone I had a frame builder build me an exact copy, but with clearance for much fatter tires. It's a modern bike, 10 speed cassette, cantilever brakes, etc, but the geometry is classic. And I do like the way it rides, put several thousand miles on it last year.

macbobster

I'm gearing up for my first 200K Brevet. My main priority is having fun, Lord willing!

ThermionicScott 

That's the spirit! You're out riding a bike for the better part of the day.

macbobster

Thanks for the encouragement! I'm re-working my '91 Cannondale ST600 for the job. Of interest is the 3 X 7 BioPace / Hyperglide tranny. I'll post some pics soon.

God bless you all,
MAC

macbobster

The Italians might have something to say about that, LOL.

rhm

Well, we haven't heard from Jan in a few years now, so he probably won't come back to explain himself... But I think he was taking a jab at neither Italians nor Italian bikes, but at internet posers ("poseurs").

But just cuz, here's my Bottecchia beater 650b rando fixie. I planned to ride it a lot last year but I ended up not riding so much and riding other bikes when I did. Maybe this year!

https://flic.kr/p/2aZ3dxZ

All best wishes on your first 200k! Sometimes a ride like that will kick you hard. It don't mean nothing.

Classtime 

A few years ago, I did a few 200s and a 300 on a Waterford built Milwaukee road with a Carradice Barley. It might be fun to complete a series on this bike with a real Rando Bag-- Probably not this year because the nearby 600s conflict with EroicaCA but next year, it will be my focus.

This is a 23" 1978 Motobecane Grand Jubile in pretty stock configuration. The changes as pictured are the TB-14s on 7400 hubs and the Brooks on a V.O. seat post. The stock seat post was not quite long enough and I don't have nice tires for the 27" hooked alloy Rigidas on Normandy Sport hubs. The bike rides very nicely. I've been commuting and running errands on it. Today, was a nice ride on my usual 30 mile 2500 feet loop with 4.3 lbs. in the front bag. This is a winner. According to my measurements, it has 45mm of trail, 440mm chain stays, wheelbase of 107cm and a front center of 67cm.

The G.J. come in 21, 23, and 25 inches. The 25 is likely too big but I would like to swing my leg over one sometime. Less seat post and a shorter stem to make more room for the front bag would be a plus.

EDIT: my Swift Tire Sand Canyons showed up and I mounted them on the original wheels and freewheel. 52/42 with 14/32 should be plenty.

Sedgemop 

Any Chicagoland folks join in the Great Lakes Randonneur rides? Thinking about going on a few brevets this year and wondering if I might see some vintage steel while I'm out. I'll probably be on a Moto Le Champion, or a Gitane Tour de France. Egalite! Fraternite!