It's not about definitions or what 'people' already understand or don't understand. It is about clarifying how LCF can cause people to lead more active lives as part of their daily routines, and how it can distract them from the urge to snack and comfort-eat by filling their time with pedaling/walking that channels nervous energy into transportation motion.

If 'people' (such as yourself, apparently) insist on denying this model of LCF in favor of minimizing physical activity by maximizing transit use, ride-sharing, etc. then they will still be doing good for the environment by reducing the number of motor-vehicles and the demand for pavement, but they're not going to get the health benefits, at least not until they start walking the long way from the bus stop and/or getting out of the bus a few stops early and walking the rest of the way instead. This is still an easier choice with transit than with a car, because with the car you have to walk back to wherever you park, whereas with transit you can always choose a different stop later regardless of where you get out.

I still don't see why you focus on including/excluding people from LCF as a status, except to discourage LCF. To me LCF is an ideal that people aspire to and pursue, regardless of how far they get with it. Even if someone just sees the problems of mass-automotivism instead of whitewashing it to justify their own choice to drive, they have made it further than someone who's still busy defending driving because it's part of their egos that feels threatened when it is criticized or transcended by certain people's choices.

Well, that's obvious isn't it? Otherwise you would call it LBB (living by bicycle).

I think you get too hung up in establishing and debating definitions. It seems to be in your fight/debate-seeking nature to do this.

In an environmental/economic sense, there is a spirit of living car free that has nothing to do with exercise, fitness, and health. It's the same as the spirit of Christmas. Part of the spirit of Christmas is giving and receiving gifts, and children love that part of it and adults relate to each other in various ways with gift giving/reception. But then there's another spirit of Christmas that is about religion and everything that goes along with that. These two different spirits of Christmas aren't in competition with each other, nor are they totally separate from each other, but different people experience them as separate to differing degrees. So it is the same with LCF. You overcomplicate discussions by (ab)using differences in culture and perception to achieve debate objectives that push what you want to push, which seems to be acceptance of car-culture and marginalization and ridicule of LCF in every possible way. Why no one seems considers this trolling of the LCF forum I don't understand.

Well I gave it a shot. Now LCF is a bit like Christmas and people see the “Spirit” of LCF that they need to embrace for exercise differently. It is hard to hit a moving target with logic and reason. I am willing to admit This subject is hopeless.