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Old 02-07-21, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by IsleRide View Post
Only the Modolo brake levers and Specialized touring pedals are vintage but I built my Rambouillet in the tradition of classic sports touring bicycles. With 73 and 72 degree head and seat tubes, 2 degree up-sloping top tube and 44.5 cm chain stays it has the geometry that encourages long rides. If I can't do the distance it will never be the bike's fault.



beautiful classic bike you have there. What pedals / half clip combo are you sporting? Update: you answered this already, sorry
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beautiful classic bike you have there. What pedals / half clip combo are you sporting? Update: you answered this already, sorry
Thanks. Half clips are V-O. Have them on a couple of bikes. Wish they were still available.
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Old 02-07-21, 05:56 PM
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This thread inspired me to measure some chainstays on the fleet. Interestingly, the relatively modern bikes that get ridden the most have 43cm-length stays. My 2020 Rivendell Roadini has 44cm stays, so a bit longer. My '74 Raleigh Int'l has 43cm stays. The only thing significantly shorter is my Lemond Zurich with 41cm stays (and I really like the way it rides; great climber and very stable descender).
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Old 02-07-21, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
This thread inspired me to measure some chainstays on the fleet. Interestingly, the relatively modern bikes that get ridden the most have 43cm-length stays. My 2020 Rivendell Roadini has 44cm stays, so a bit longer. My '74 Raleigh Int'l has 43cm stays. The only thing significantly shorter is my Lemond Zurich with 41cm stays (and I really like the way it rides; great climber and very stable descender).

My favorite bike to ride is my Gios Compact Pro, which has 39.5CM chain stays. Really great bike to ride. But no way would I want that to make that a touring bike. I think the longer chainstays nowadays is due to increased tire sizes becoming more popular, and therefore, the really short chainstays are likely a thing of the past outside of TT specific bikes.
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Old 02-07-21, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
This thread inspired me to measure some chainstays on the fleet. Interestingly, the relatively modern bikes that get ridden the most have 43cm-length stays. My 2020 Rivendell Roadini has 44cm stays, so a bit longer. My '74 Raleigh Int'l has 43cm stays. The only thing significantly shorter is my Lemond Zurich with 41cm stays (and I really like the way it rides; great climber and very stable descender).
I rode a Lemond Zurich for 17 years. It excelled as a climber no doubt due to the 72 degree seat tube angle and the lightness of the 853 frame. If I still owned it I probably wouldn't ride it as much but I do miss it.
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Old 02-09-21, 02:12 PM
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This is where I want to be with this 1981 Tom Kellogg Ross Signature as of today. There are some things I want to figure out and maybe change as some miles get put on, but for now, this is where I'm at with it.

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Old 02-09-21, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
This is where I want to be with this 1981 Tom Kellogg Ross Signature as of today. There are some things I want to figure out and maybe change as some miles get put on, but for now, this is where I'm at with it.
That looks pretty nice! Is it mostly as originally equipped? Actually, looking at it closer, it looks like all the parts belong on it, but I think maybe just the seatpost and possibly the stem came with the bike? Very nice.

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Old 02-09-21, 11:01 PM
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Might catch flack for the bars(with the sport touring crowd)...
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Old 02-09-21, 11:17 PM
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1985 League Fuji






I'd put the mid-80s Fuji Club / League in at the sportier end of the sport-touring continuum.

43.2 cm chainstays. Longer than the full race bikes (41 cm) but shorter than the touring bikes (44 cm).
73 degree parallel angles, vs race bikes (75s / 74h) and touring bikes (73s / 72h)
50 mm fork rake, in between race (40) and touring (65), yields 50 mm trail.
Single rear eyelets, none on the fork.
Standard reach sidepull brakes.
110 mm double crank.

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Old 02-09-21, 11:56 PM
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Single rear eyelets, none on the fork.
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Nice build! Peculiar that there's no fork eyelets. Are you sure the fork is original?
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Old 02-10-21, 01:01 AM
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Nice build! Peculiar that there's no fork eyelets. Are you sure the fork is original?
Yep... has Fuji fork crown, and that's what the catalog shows. And, yeah, it's kinda weird. The front fender uses PDW's skewer mount, which works well but turns the quick release into a slow release. If I'd built it, I'd have used p-clamps, but I bought it mostly as is.

All I did was convert it from a 42x16 singlespeed to a 42x14-26 6-speed.

Full story here.

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Old 02-10-21, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hobbiano View Post
That looks pretty nice! Is it mostly as originally equipped? Actually, looking at it closer, it looks like all the parts belong on it, but I think maybe just the seatpost and possibly the stem came with the bike? Very nice.
Thanks! I got it as a f/f/hs, and when gathering parts for it, I tried to be as close to oe spec / period correct (with personal preferences taken into account) as possible. I do plan on starting a separate build/info thread on it soon.
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Old 02-10-21, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger M View Post

Might catch flack for the bars(with the sport touring crowd)...
Looks pretty darn good to me.
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Old 02-10-21, 08:12 AM
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1978 Davidson custom with first gen Dura Ace:
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1978 Davidson custom with first gen Dura Ace:
That's a beautiful bike.
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Old 02-10-21, 09:03 AM
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Without scrolling back thru all of this, I did notice that there were several examples of the Centurion ProTour posted here, but that strikes me as more of a full-on touring bike than a sports tourer. For example:
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I purchased this 1979 Centurion Pro-Tour in excellent original condition
I picked up a mid-70s SemiPro a couple of years ago, and I had thought that it slots better into this category (lighter tubing, single-eyelet dropouts, no posts for brakes, narrower gearing from factory).


But maybe it's not that simple, and my 21st-century perspective is biasing my categorization? I'm not in front of the bike to measure angles or chainstay length, but perhaps that's a better tell.


Honestly, mostly just looking for an excuse to repost a picture.
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Old 02-10-21, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ShannonM View Post
I'd put the mid-80s Fuji Club / League in at the sportier end of the sport-touring continuum.

43.2 cm chainstays. Longer than the full race bikes (41 cm) but shorter than the touring bikes (44 cm).
73 degree parallel angles, vs race bikes (75s / 74h) and touring bikes (73s / 72h)
50 mm fork rake, in between race (40) and touring (65), yields 50 mm trail.
Single rear eyelets, none on the fork.
Standard reach sidepull brakes.
110 mm double crank.

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The earlier Fuji Clubs were a little more suited for mounting a rack and fenders. My son has a 1989 Fuji Club. By then, Fuji was marketing it toward triathletes and beginning racers, so the geometry is pretty tight and steep. It came with 23 mm tires and there isn't a lot of room for anything more than 25 (or 28 mm as long as they run small). Also there are no eyelets. front or rear. It is still a fun bike, and I have ridden it on longer rides, but only on supported tours where I didn't have to carry much.
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Old 02-10-21, 07:00 PM
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1979 Echelon Odyssey (built by Cherubim)


1989 Davidson Discovery


1983 Austro-Daimler Inter-10


1985 Raleigh Team USA


1987 Mercian Olympic

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i enjoyed reading through this thread and will add my own bikes at some point. but I came across this 3Rensho sport tourer today on the website of a Japanese pawn shop. I had no idea that Konno ever made bikes like these! I've never seen a San Rensho bike that wasn't either a track, road, or time trial before. I have to assume that based on the logo style and components that it dates from the 1970s or early 80s.

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Old 02-11-21, 03:14 PM
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1979 Echelon Odyssey


1989 Davidson Discovery


1983 Austro-Daimler Inter-10


1985 Raleigh Team USA


1987 Mercian Olympic
Thanks for posting those, Chuck. Very nice!

Just curious: how does that Inter 10 compare to the others? I happen to have an Inter 10 (see post 501) and I've become rather fond of it, but I am not familiar with the others you posted.
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Old 02-11-21, 04:17 PM
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Sportiest. 531 and shortest (I think) wheelbase. I originally built it up with fenders, but took them back off.
I love A-Ds, have the Inter, SLE and Superleicht.
Thank you! That kind of confirms a conclusion I was about to come to, albeit reluctantly, after trying quite a few other bikes: it doesn't get much better than the Inter 10, at least not for the kind of riding I do.
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Old 03-27-21, 06:57 AM
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All nice pics. I find the sport tourers so much more comfortable as Ive gotten older. Still quick, but more more relaxed. My older cannondale ST have a beautiful ride and put my old criterium frame to shame.
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Old 03-27-21, 07:26 AM
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Here's a pic of my Nishiki Olympic Tri-A. The frame is much stiffer than my otherwise similar Norco Monterey. I haven't carried anything heavy with this bike yet, but back when I would ride my Norco, I weighed 200+lb and would occasionally carry up to 35lb without an issue on the bike.
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