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01-23-19, 08:12 AM
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01-23-19, 02:08 PM
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01-23-19, 02:51 PM
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Looks like fun. As a flatlander, I try not to head over 6,000 ft without a day or two to get used to it. The altitude won't be a problem, the gravel and the climbing will but that's the fun part right? If I go, I'll be sorely tempted to bring my gravel grinder (a '93 Bridgestone XO-2 with 26 x 1.75 tires and a triple crank) even though it's not exactly vintage.
01-23-19, 03:49 PM
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Hmmm, no direct flights into Kalispell, but Missoula's a short flight away...All day drive from Portland doesn't make sense...seems like I'd come up with a solution for something like this before...
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01-23-19, 07:17 PM
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I never realised how close Kila is to the Alberta border and I can fly directly to Calgary for a decent price... might have to try and make this the year I do this ride, I loved southern Alberta when I was there in 2017...
01-23-19, 08:14 PM
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The graphs are great @Choke
For those contemplating the Cino,
assuming the route matches 2016,
the following observations are offered.
1. tires
In dry conditions, 32mm (small knobs) was more than enough for my 200# carcass. Almost no soft sand anywhere in 2016.
In wet, ….well I guess it depends = How wet? How long ago? Rain on Event Days?
2. gearing
pick your medicine, spin or grind or walk. Only you know.
3. distance, considering 1 sustained climb each day.
Approach the ride as four 25milers in 2 days, with lunch break (& others), with an overnight hot springs spa location.
Pretty cush, except for 1 climb a day., BUT...
4. Remember …. all that downhill means - 'whole lotta skaking goin on' - tighten down all those bolts and screws, headsets, cranks and pedals.
For those contemplating the Cino,
assuming the route matches 2016,
the following observations are offered.
1. tires
In dry conditions, 32mm (small knobs) was more than enough for my 200# carcass. Almost no soft sand anywhere in 2016.
In wet, ….well I guess it depends = How wet? How long ago? Rain on Event Days?
2. gearing
pick your medicine, spin or grind or walk. Only you know.
3. distance, considering 1 sustained climb each day.
Approach the ride as four 25milers in 2 days, with lunch break (& others), with an overnight hot springs spa location.
Pretty cush, except for 1 climb a day., BUT...
4. Remember …. all that downhill means - 'whole lotta skaking goin on' - tighten down all those bolts and screws, headsets, cranks and pedals.
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01-23-19, 09:19 PM
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Don't forget the sunscreen, just in case. 2015 was sunny and WARM.
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01-23-19, 11:54 PM
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Assumimg you have all proper documentation (ask me what happens when you don’t), crossing the border is easy and we’re about 5 hours away. Crowsnest pass and down through Fernie is a beautiful drive. Going through Cardston and down around or through Glacier Park is also quite nice. You could get a taste of Going to the Sun Rd by going through the park! (Also a bucket list ride.)
01-24-19, 08:03 AM
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Assumimg you have all proper documentation (ask me what happens when you don’t), crossing the border is easy and we’re about 5 hours away. Crowsnest pass and down through Fernie is a beautiful drive. Going through Cardston and down around or through Glacier Park is also quite nice. You could get a taste of Going to the Sun Rd by going through the park! (Also a bucket list ride.)
01-24-19, 08:08 AM
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Assumimg you have all proper documentation (ask me what happens when you don’t), crossing the border is easy and we’re about 5 hours away. Crowsnest pass and down through Fernie is a beautiful drive. Going through Cardston and down around or through Glacier Park is also quite nice. You could get a taste of Going to the Sun Rd by going through the park! (Also a bucket list ride.)
01-24-19, 01:24 PM
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On the tire subject, I've ridden Cino twice with tires that measured 26mm wide. While it is better on wider tires, I had no problems with the smaller ones.
01-24-19, 04:00 PM
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At my first Cino, I had three chainring bolts work themselves loose and fall out. I didn't notice it (though I did notice that I was having shifting trouble) but fortunately Sunday morning DD noticed it and he and Northbend pointed me to a guy, who's name I can't recall, who had a box full of spares. Those bolts got a drop of Loctite once I was home.
01-24-19, 05:22 PM
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Yeah, he definitely wasn't happy about that.
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01-24-19, 05:26 PM
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The graphs are great @Choke
For those contemplating the Cino,
assuming the route matches 2016,
the following observations are offered.
1. tires
In dry conditions, 32mm (small knobs) was more than enough for my 200# carcass. Almost no soft sand anywhere in 2016.
In wet, ….well I guess it depends = How wet? How long ago? Rain on Event Days?
2. gearing
pick your medicine, spin or grind or walk. Only you know.
3. distance, considering 1 sustained climb each day.
Approach the ride as four 25milers in 2 days, with lunch break (& others), with an overnight hot springs spa location.
Pretty cush, except for 1 climb a day., BUT...
4. Remember …. all that downhill means - 'whole lotta skaking goin on' - tighten down all those bolts and screws, headsets, cranks and pedals.
For those contemplating the Cino,
assuming the route matches 2016,
the following observations are offered.
1. tires
In dry conditions, 32mm (small knobs) was more than enough for my 200# carcass. Almost no soft sand anywhere in 2016.
In wet, ….well I guess it depends = How wet? How long ago? Rain on Event Days?
2. gearing
pick your medicine, spin or grind or walk. Only you know.
3. distance, considering 1 sustained climb each day.
Approach the ride as four 25milers in 2 days, with lunch break (& others), with an overnight hot springs spa location.
Pretty cush, except for 1 climb a day., BUT...
4. Remember …. all that downhill means - 'whole lotta skaking goin on' - tighten down all those bolts and screws, headsets, cranks and pedals.
2 - there were times I was definitely wishing for a little lower gear on the long climb the second day. For the most part, though, 52-42 and 14-28 worked well
3. The breaks were well spaced as were the coolers with refreshments on the side of the road.
4 - isn't this the truth. I pulled the brake cable liner through the housing on the front brake on the first day long washboard descent which basically made the brake useless. Lost some tension on the rear derailleur that day too and had to tension it back up with Roger M's help that evening before heading out the next day.
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01-25-19, 11:03 AM
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Guess this means I will have to put a bottle cage and pump on the 1976 LeTour. Is it more Cino if still has the original cables and chain?
01-25-19, 03:47 PM
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Cino changed my life! A little iffy if I can make it out there this year. The Coppi event more likely. Thanks for keeping this alive Dave! Still have to do the return ride...
01-26-19, 01:13 AM
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Cino...
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01-26-19, 03:05 PM
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It’s even bigger east of the mountains on the plains... eerily so. Every time I drive the high line I don’t feel at ease until I can see my mountains again. It’s like being adrift at sea beyond the sight of land.
Our state’s name comes for the Spanish word for ‘mountain,’ but our nickname, Big Sky Country, comes from the two-thirds of the state that is part of the Great Plains.
Our state’s name comes for the Spanish word for ‘mountain,’ but our nickname, Big Sky Country, comes from the two-thirds of the state that is part of the Great Plains.
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It’s even bigger east of the mountains on the plains... eerily so. Every time I drive the high line I don’t feel at ease until I can see my mountains again. It’s like being adrift at sea beyond the sight of land.
Our state’s name comes for the Spanish word for ‘mountain,’ but our nickname, Big Sky Country, comes from the two-thirds of the state that is part of the Great Plains.
01-26-19, 06:41 PM
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I much prefer the scenery in the southwest corner of the state. Biked all over that area when I was a teenager. Best ride was Livingston to Billings ,and back, in a weekend with a good friend of mine.
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01-27-19, 08:22 AM
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Are you worried that you don't have enough bikes?
I'm thinking my Peugeot PR 10 would be the perfect bike for this with the right wheels and gearing. I'll bet that frame will take a 700 x 35c tire no problemo and I'll run a "compact" stronglight 99 on it to get some uber low gears to keep my knees happy.
It would be "cheating" but it would be fun taking a "vintage" MTB on this ride. Old MTBs make ace gravel bikes with nice plush tires, cantilevers, and lots of gearing. Honestly as I look at that elevation profile, the idea of a vintage MTB starts to look more and more appealing,
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01-27-19, 11:28 AM
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It would be "cheating" but it would be fun taking a "vintage" MTB on this ride. Old MTBs make ace gravel bikes with nice plush tires, cantilevers, and lots of gearing. Honestly as I look at that elevation profile, the idea of a vintage MTB starts to look more and more appealing, .
.Overall, I think 35mm tries would be the sweet spot for me, at a little over 200lbs these days, but I might ride my '72 Nishiki Semi-Pro, which is already comfortably shod with 38's.
For 95% of this ride, fat knobby tires is just way overkill, IMO.
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