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Old 01-16-15, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunbar
No, I got a second bike and haven't bought carbon clinchers for it yet. So my 'good' aluminum Powertap wheels will be on the bike with the Power2Max PM until I purchase new CF wheels. I just thought the Garmin might see two PM's and start syncing to whichever one it sees first when I turn it on.
As mentioned above, just hard code the ANT+ ID that you want to the Edge to pair up with.

I ran 2 Garmins and 2 PMs at the same time for awhile. Edge 500 paired to a Powertap SL+ and an Edge 510 paired to a new Quarq Riken. In both cases, I hard-coded the ANT+ ID. I did this because the PT had been rock solid and the previous Gen Quarqs were not. So, I ran both for awhile until I was confident that the Riken was going to be solid. It has been rock solid.

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I'm changing from Powertap to Quarq (Riken) this weekend (If FedEx is on schedule). What differences should I expect to see?
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Originally Posted by Dunbar
No, I got a second bike and haven't bought carbon clinchers for it yet. So my 'good' aluminum Powertap wheels will be on the bike with the Power2Max PM until I purchase new CF wheels. I just thought the Garmin might see two PM's and start syncing to whichever one it sees first when I turn it on.
Pull the PT batteries and no worries.
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Originally Posted by Voodoo76
I'm changing from Powertap to Quarq (Riken) this weekend (If FedEx is on schedule). What differences should I expect to see?
A few percent.
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Old 01-16-15, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
Pull the PT batteries and no worries.
yep.. that's what I did when I had my PT wheel with vector pedals at the sametime... PT wheel is gone now.
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Question for you Windows7/WKO+ 3.0 users:

I am having trouble making Device Agent recognize my CycleOps Joule GPS when I plug it into a USB port on my new PC. The "Settings", "Erase", "Port", and "Download" fields are all grayed-out, implying that it doesn't see my device when it is plugged in. It starts charging as soon as I plug it in, so I don't think it's that cable. I feel that it is a device driver issue, as the computer doesn't list or display any devices plugged into a USB port after I plug it in.

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I purchased a powertap hub and WKO+ software in fall 2014. I had been using Device Agent and WKO+ successfully on an old crappy laptop I owned with Windows Vista. Over the holidays, I purchased a new PC (Dell Inspiron) with Windows7, and have been in the process of transferring software and files to my new computer. I was able to move my WKO+ license and all of my workout data to the new computer, which was a (mostly) smooth process. Now I am having trouble uploading new data because Device Agent isn't recognizing my device when it is plugged into my new computer.

Do you have any suggests/comments/tips? It's a little frustrating that I can't upload my new data; I already have a handful of workouts that are just piling up on my Joule GPS, which has limited memory. I've tried the Refresh Ports (ctrl R) command and re-installing the software to no avail.

Any help is appreciated. I may have to open a support ticket with Training Peaks soon.
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make sure the usb port works, the fact it's powered doesn't necessarily mean it's working. try a thumb drive or something.
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Old 01-17-15, 06:14 PM
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Aha!

Your suggestion led me to the solution.

The USB was working - in fact, when I navigated to control panel -> hardware & sound -> devices and printers, it was listed under Unspecified: "CycleOps Joule GPS". However, when I examined the properties of the device, it was stated the it had no or missing drivers. After that, I was able to successfully use the wizard to install the drivers, and now it works!

So, thanks.
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Old 01-18-15, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylde06
care to share what is it that you do? ive been meaning to test in some way, but am dreading having to do the 20 minute test on the trainer (ive though about giving the 2x8 minute test a shot).
did this yesterday, 2oMMP PR!
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Old 01-18-15, 11:42 AM
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all that great weather yesterday, and you did it indoors? wimp

at least i could have drafted off of you had you done it near Poolesville
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Originally Posted by echappist
all that great weather yesterday, and you did it indoors? wimp c

at least i could have drafted off of you had you done it near Poolesville
guilty. birthday party, dance lesson, soccer conflicts made an indoor day and opportune day for a test.
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Originally Posted by echappist
all that great weather yesterday, and you did it indoors? wimp

at least i could have drafted off of you had you done it near Poolesville
I woke up exhuasted on saturday and skipped the team ride, woke up on sunday on time to see pissing rain and a canceled team ride, and then today i made it 20 minutes before my bb was fried. I'm not having the best luck right now.
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Old 01-19-15, 04:42 PM
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I guess i'm no champion then
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Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
I woke up exhuasted on saturday and skipped the team ride, woke up on sunday on time to see pissing rain and a canceled team ride, and then today i made it 20 minutes before my bb was fried. I'm not having the best luck right now.
Did you break another bike?
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Originally Posted by jsutkeepspining
I woke up exhuasted on saturday and skipped the team ride, woke up on sunday on time to see pissing rain and a canceled team ride, and then today i made it 20 minutes before my bb was fried. I'm not having the best luck right now.
Sorry to hear that. How long did your current BB last?
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WKO4 update: An Update on WKO4 | TrainingPeaks

"this year" - we'll see!!!
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Old 01-21-15, 12:52 PM
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WKO4 update: An Update on WKO4 | TrainingPeaks

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Looks like that's from this past June. But even if this year refers to 2015...they could release it on Dec 31st and it would still be this year!
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Originally Posted by Wylde06
Looks like that's from this past June. But even if this year refers to 2015...they could release it on Dec 31st and it would still be this year!
ha good point! On my phone I saw "J" and thought January for some reason...

lol so nevermind, it's still vaporware!
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I got a used Giant Trinity circa 2009, complete except for wheels, and put a set of carbon wheels I already had on it - PSIMET 50mm with a Powertap G3 hub. The PT worked fine on the bike the wheels were on previously. On the Trinity, though, I had to spread the rear dropouts slightly to fit the wheel. When I tried to calibrate the PT with my Garmin 500, I got nothing but dashes in the calibration field, and values of 1.3-1.5 in the torque field, where they were 0.0 in the past. The power readings seem about right. I'm trading emails with PT, and their suggestion was to update the firmware on the hub...but I had re-checked that the week before I put the wheel on the bike, and it was the latest release. Any suggestions?

The alternative is to get a Stages Rival crankarm (crankset is Force) and fit the Reynolds 66 tubulars that are currently gathering dust. I work in an LBS that is a Stages dealer, so this is a relatively affordable fix.
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I wonder if the tension on the hub axle is messing with the torque tube.
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That's my guess as well. When I have some time, I'm going to pull the wheel and re-seat it and see if that changes anything.
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Trying to psych myself up for a MAP test. How do you guys do it? I'm thinking of setting up my iPad with an interval clock in front of me and the Garmin set to show 3 sec. power. What do you think?
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Old 01-29-15, 08:13 AM
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I've had a PM a few weeks now, I really haven't been looking at the numbers. I've been riding and training with the watts either taped over or looking at a different screen on the garmin. I plan on doing my first formal test tonight after work; planning on doing the MAP test. Frankly, I don't like doing intervals longer than 10 minutes on the trainer. I usually stick to 60" on/off or ladder intervals, those usually get me ready for start of racing season in march.
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