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My stupid C&V question where does you QR lever point towards on your bike....

Old 02-24-12, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by buldogge
??? The QR "handle" is curved to follow the contour of the blade...runs along it and bends to the rear.
Like this:



...the BG and ilwafer way.
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Old 02-24-12, 09:22 PM
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Rotate it another 20 degrees, or so.

Originally Posted by auchencrow
Like this:



...the BG and ilwafer way.
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Old 02-24-12, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by illwafer
i'd post an example but non-drive side pics aren't allowed. sorry.
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Old 02-24-12, 11:17 PM
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I point mine towards Jesus, but only when I want him to sell me a taco.
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That's a nice Toeguep. But it isn't a 01-XP.

Next thing, you guys will be saying the rim labels have to face the drive side.
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Back in the 80s, it was 'fashionable' to have the levers parallel to each other, with the front one taking precedent. Front gets set parallel to the fork blade above the front dropout. Comes to about 1-2 o'clock.


48 at 48-19 by WNG555, on Flickr
More recently, I've began to tuck the rear skewer between the stays, with it parallel to the seat stay. Note that Shimano's rear skewer has the imprinted words reading proper in forward facing position.


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Also, modern cam skewers and some fat bike tubes make the 2 o'clock set up look off. And downright impossible at the front.

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+1 for front parallel to fork and back parallel to seat stay.
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Old 02-25-12, 02:23 AM
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Mine: exactly like illwafer in #22. BTW ... a beautiful Pug!
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It seems the opinions and preferences expressed upline weigh in on the side of form over function.

Reading Shimano hub/skewer doc lights the way: the AXLE of the QR should be perpendicular to your dropout. So rather than a matter of style, it's one of safety.

'nuff said?
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No, that's not enuf said. That sentence doesn't makes sense. The AXLE of the quick release skewer has nothing to do with where the lever goes. Do you mean LEVER? If if you do mean handle, or lever, it sill doesn't make sense. How does one place the lever perpendicular to the dropout?
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Given that the dropout is a planar surface, the skewer would be normal to (which is to say, perpendicular to) the dropout. 'Tain't no other way to use it.
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Originally Posted by mrmw
It seems the opinions and preferences expressed upline weigh in on the side of form over function.

Reading Shimano hub/skewer doc lights the way: the AXLE of the QR should be perpendicular to your dropout. So rather than a matter of style, it's one of safety.

'nuff said?
So if I have a horizontal dropout I'm to leave my QR lever sticking out behind the frame? Not only does that look stupid, the lever is more exposed. I'll pass.
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Old 02-25-12, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmuller
Given that the dropout is a planar surface, the skewer would be normal to (which is to say, perpendicular to) the dropout. 'Tain't no other way to use it.
The skewer? Of course the skewer is perpendicular to the dropout planar surface. The Lever? If the lever were perpendicular to the dropout planar surface it would be in the "open" position. Am I missing something here? Isn't this thread about lever position? In which case, the lever is PARALLEL to the dropout planar surface. When closed, that is.
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I think you're confused, Scott. When the QR is closed, the QR lever will be perpendicular to the skewer/axle no matter which way you point it. But, yeah, this thread is about which direction we point the QR lever.

There is no functional reason to have the QR lever parallel with the direction of the dropout.
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
I think you're confused, Scott. When the QR is closed, the QR lever will be perpendicular to the skewer/axle no matter which way you point it. But, yeah, this thread is about which direction we point the QR lever.

There is no functional reason to have the QR lever parallel with the direction of the dropout.
I don't think so Colonel. The post I took issue with used the term "planar surface" of the dropout, and the skewer being perpendicular to it. No objection to that. Of course the skewer is perpendicular to the dropout. But the LEVER, which is what this thread is about, is parallel to the dropout. It's all much ado about not much, however. Perhaps poster #34 misunderstood the question when he quoted the Shimano text.
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I point them where I can get the best leverage
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I point them where I can get the best leverage
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
Same here, but the rear just above the chain stay.
Surprise surprise surprise. The Colonel is anal about his skewers!
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Originally Posted by buldogge
??? The QR "handle" is curved to follow the contour of the blade...runs along it and bends to the rear.
Not until the mid/late 70s, unless you curved them yourself!
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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd
So if I have a horizontal dropout I'm to leave my QR lever sticking out behind the frame?
Heck yes! Where you from boy?
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Up against the fork or seat stay so I can use a rubber coated wrench to leverage the incalcitrant ones open
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Old 02-25-12, 06:41 PM
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2:00 does make sense for the front lever, but I now remember why I also have it at 2:00 at the rear. When I pull on my rear wheel into the dropouts from behind the bike, the rear lever at the 2:00 position makes it convenient and easy to both pull back on the axle against the tension from the RD pivot springs with my index and finger hooking the head and nut of the skewer and close the lever with my left palm in one action when I feel the axle bottom out on the adjusters on the DOs. My thumbs go on to the seat stays for leverage and to stabilize and help center the wheel between the DOs.
So I stay with 2:00 for both front and rear for my bikes.

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