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Old 07-27-19, 10:39 AM
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Removed chain pin

Hi there old masters of vintage bikes,

As needed to repaint the frame on an old Raleigh from 1984 I removed the chain by taking a pin out - shall I get new pin and if so which as is 2x6 (12 speed) or get chainlink and if so which as chain I think is slightly wider than 8/9/10/11 ring ones?

Many thanks for you help
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Old 07-27-19, 11:56 AM
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Were it me and assuming that you are running a five, six, seven or eight cog set, go with an eight speed chain. They are lighter and easier to work on, in my opinion. I use them on all of my bikes and guess what - they all have a removable master link, making it easy to remove the chain for what ever reason. The chains, SRAM, are not all that expensive, again my opinion...
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Old 07-27-19, 12:17 PM
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Amazon has good prices on KMC 6 speed chains and they come with a master link
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Never push the pin all the way out. The way to do it is to push it only part way out, just far enough to be able to wiggle the link open.

It is extremely unlikely that you will ever find a matching replacement link or pin. But don't worry. Chains are consumables. Never hurts to replace it. Try a SRAM or KMC 6/7/8 speed chain as suggested. I vote for SRAM, by a nose.
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Old 07-27-19, 12:30 PM
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While I don't recommend it and suggest a new chain (cheap), the pin can go back in with needlenose, 5 hands, patience, and copious amounts of expletives.
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Old 07-27-19, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dedhed
While I don't recommend it and suggest a new chain (cheap), the pin can go back in with needlenose, 5 hands, patience, and copious amounts of expletives.
+1. Did it once (successfully), and - unless I become very poor - will not do it again.
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A couple times (on at least two new builds), a new 8-speed chain skated between the two chainrings on a double. A new 5-speed kmc chain solved the problem.
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My method for dealing with pin connector chains

1. remove pin with chain tool
2. remove chain and place in trash/recycle
3. buy new SRAM 800 series 8 speed chain with quick link
4. lnstall
5. Smile cause you never have to deal with #$%^&8ing pin connectors again!

Note having the park quick link tool (pliers) is handy if you need to uninstall the chain.
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Old 07-27-19, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
+1. Did it once (successfully), and - unless I become very poor - will not do it again.
Done that once too. And fixed it. Took all of the mentioned above, plus a copious amount of imbuitives.
But it was worth it. A nearly new Sedisgold chain. I wasn't about to throw that out.

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Good luck getting that pin back in the chain.
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Old 07-27-19, 06:28 PM
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Good luck is right. You guys that put the pin back in place have my admiration! I just popped the next pin over and didn't push it all the way out and tossed the "broken" link I screwed up. Unless your working with close tolerances you'll be fine. By buying a new chain you may find it hops on your old freewheel. Why take a chance?
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MEASURE the chain for wear / elongation. If you've just bought the bike, you don't know if the chain might have been replaced very recently. Replace if there's more than 1/16" elongation over 12 full links (12"). Or if you know that it's the original or a very old chain, replace. Or use a Park chain checker tool. If you determine the chain is fresh, you have the option of lining up the pin with a needle-nose pliers and trying to press it back in. It only took me three hands and a few cuss words.
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Old 07-28-19, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dedhed
While I don't recommend it and suggest a new chain (cheap), the pin can go back in with needlenose, 5 hands, patience, and copious amounts of expletives.
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+1. Did it once (successfully), and - unless I become very poor - will not do it again.
Consider reinstalling the pin to be a Zen exercise designed to test your character and patience.

To the OP: Amazon has 5/6 speed KMC Z33 chains for about $6. These do not come with a quick link.
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Old 07-28-19, 07:44 AM
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If I were reusing the chain, I'd splice in a link from another chain.
If the chain's old, replace it as suggested already.
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Old 07-28-19, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost
Consider reinstalling the pin to be a Zen exercise designed to test your character and patience.
I did. Very briefly.
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I have done it a couple of times...P.I.A. Don't let the pin come completely out! Needle nose trick works but not the easiest maneuver . Get a new chain , then the world is happy again, Joe
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Old 07-29-19, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Kekec1965
Hi there old masters of vintage bikes,

As needed to repaint the frame on an old Raleigh from 1984 I removed the chain by taking a pin out - shall I get new pin and if so which as is 2x6 (12 speed) or get chainlink and if so which as chain I think is slightly wider than 8/9/10/11 ring ones?

Many thanks for you help

Super thanks to all who replied to mu post - new chain will be....

A note to editor - could not even reply to no2 as he added photo of his bike? Rules are one thing, being petty is another IMHO.
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^^^^ All you'd have to do is remove his photos from your reply. Nothing "petty" about it; it's a programmed rule, not an arbitrary decision. Without the "10 posts" rules, spammers / "carpet-baggers" tend to dash in and clutter up the forums with junk posts. In addition, you're only two posts short of the threshold.
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^^^^ All you'd have to do is remove his photos from your reply. Nothing "petty" about it; it's a programmed rule, not an arbitrary decision. Without the "10 posts" rules, spammers / "carpet-baggers" tend to dash in and clutter up the forums with junk posts. In addition, you're only two posts short of the threshold.
Thanks, appreciate your help, have not seen this, perhaps that can be solved by alerting newbies like me to do so when replying before programmed rule kicks in?
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^^^^^ Been a while since I registered, but I think you get a "Welcome" Email (or perhaps a PM) that mentions the 10-post stuff.
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Originally Posted by Moe Zhoost
Consider reinstalling the pin to be a Zen exercise . . .
exactly. become one with the chain, grasshopper.
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When you can snatch the quick-link from my hand.....
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I've had people who I think should know better try to tell me that it's dangerous to break chains and put the pins back in. I've only had one experience (out of dozens) where the chain was a problem after I did this. That said, mixing and matching between chains that aren't identical is something I would not attempt.
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