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Old 02-27-12, 09:50 PM
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Spoke gauge and hub hole question

I found formula hubs for 35, and 21$ respectively for rear and front. I also found Weinmann DP18 rims very cheap 23$ each. I also found the length of the spokes to be 277.3 for the front, and 276.7 mm. I'm pretty sure the spoke length should be 277mm. The hub hole is 2.6mm though, and the standard 14/15 gauge is 2.0/1.8/2.0 for the DB spokes. Question is though would it be alright to use those 14/15 gauge spokes with the hub regardless of the fact that the hole is .6mm bigger? I tried searching but no go. The only thing I came close to was someone saying that when the spoke was tightened at the nipple on the rim there would be no room for it to move on the hub because it is tightened up. Also DB or Straight gauge? The difference is a bit more but not too bad. As of right now I don't think I'll be riding too hard core. But the streets here are quite bad and have many potholes. It's safe to say to go with DB right?


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Old 02-27-12, 11:46 PM
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wheel building section?
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Old 02-27-12, 11:57 PM
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You're doing a custom wheel build and choosing Weinmann/Formulas? It would be more cost effective and less hassle to just order the same wheelset from Velomine.
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Old 02-28-12, 12:44 AM
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True. For some reason last I check I thought they were 145$. Never mind. Velomine it is.
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i agree that you should buy 'em built if that's what you want...

but to answer your question, yes the holes in the hubs you mention would work fine with double butted 2.0/1.8/2.0 spokes.

the holes need to be large enough to allow the spokes to be threaded through. and although it would seem that they are larger than necessary, my understanding is that the threads on spokes are not cut like those on bolts and nuts, but PRESSED in. making the diameter larger than the original gauge of the spoke wire.
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Old 02-28-12, 01:27 PM
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Cool thanks man. Should come in handy if I ever build wheels. On the thought of purchasing a wheel set, on velomine they only have 32 hole wheels for silver/chrome. I wanted to go black but I decided I'd rather go silver. I only weigh 130 and at most will get up to 140 after my weight training is over. Do you think I can go with 32 or should I go with 36. On velomine they have they have mavic cxp22 for only 10$ more than the wienmanns so I'd rather get those since I've read they are better by a higher margin but like I said they only come in 32 hole. Should I go with the black wienmann 36 or silver 32 mavic cxp22?
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Old 02-28-12, 01:29 PM
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Moving to mechanics from SSFG.
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Old 02-28-12, 01:40 PM
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Sorry bout that.
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Rolling in the threads in a spoke means the thread tips are larger
than the rest of the spoke,
so the hubs holes are sized accordingly.
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at 148# i've never had problems with 28h 400gm modest v rims (kinlin xr-200) with 15/18/15 guage DB spokes. i wouldn't be surprised if recreational cyclists below average weight (especially women) are really carrying around seriously overbuilt wheels... i know i would explore the limits of durability if i weighed 110 or so.
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Old 02-28-12, 02:33 PM
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Cool I'm thinking of just getting the mavics then. Better quality same hubs. Cheap and I can afford to buy them for my project. Now to find a crankset cheap.
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