1993/1994 Specialized Allez component decision
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Yeah, and it's good to take the comments on Velobase with a grain of salt. Most of the time it's personal anecdotes, sometimes they end up being true.
See the exploded parts diagrams from Record/Chorus and from Veloce, both from the 1993 catalog.
Record/Chorus: Campagnolo Spare Parts Catalogue - 1993 Product Range page 48
Veloce: Campagnolo Spare Parts Catalogue - 1993 Product Range page 49
Subtle but important differences.
See the exploded parts diagrams from Record/Chorus and from Veloce, both from the 1993 catalog.
Record/Chorus: Campagnolo Spare Parts Catalogue - 1993 Product Range page 48
Veloce: Campagnolo Spare Parts Catalogue - 1993 Product Range page 49
Subtle but important differences.
On closer look I didn't find the subtle differences you mentioned. They are identical. Safe the code on the 'body' part which is identical in appearance.
This from the 1994 catalog, the 1993 link didn't work. My bike is a 1994.
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I prefer properly maintained cup and cone, Shimano or Campagnolo, but I'm retired so more frequent servicing (basically just grease) with cone wrenches is not a problem for me and when you need new balls they are cheap. I have a few wheels sets that are cartridge bearing and they spin great for seeming a long time until they don't at which time you might need special drifts and spanners or just a socket and hammer. I long ago gave up tracking milage but know I have 30+ year old cup and cone hubs. Again not being a weight weenie cartridge can be lighter but I don't notice the fewer grams.
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I prefer properly maintained cup and cone, Shimano or Campagnolo no matter, but I'm retired so more frequent servicing (basically just grease) with cone wrenches is not a problem for me and when you need new balls they are cheap. I have a few wheels sets that are cartridge bearing (not cheapo Chinese stuff) and they spin great for seemingly a long time until they don't, at which time you might need special drifts and spanners or just a socket and hammer. I long ago gave up tracking milage but know I have 30+ years on cup and cone hubs. Again not being a weight weenie cartridge can be lighter but I don't notice the fewer grams.
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CATALOGUES CAMPAGNOLO: CAMPAGNOLO 1994
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I rebuild many hubs, usually mid to lower end, but also a few very high end (see threads on Fuso and Ciöcc rebuilds) on bikes donated to Bike Works. Hard to remember a Shimano hub that couldn’t be adjusted to be quite smooth, except that one left lying in water so one side was completely rusted...
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One other thought: Shimano cassette hubs seem essentially immune to axle breakage due to their outboard bearing placement. But I’m sure someone will weigh in if they have experience to the contrary.
I mention this because a nephew, certainly far from heavy at maybe 160lbs, nor heavy-load rider in his LA commute, recently suffered a rear axle breakage due to “asymmetric axle load” according to his LBS. No idea what the hub brand was, but it was remedied with a Shimano hub.
I mention this because a nephew, certainly far from heavy at maybe 160lbs, nor heavy-load rider in his LA commute, recently suffered a rear axle breakage due to “asymmetric axle load” according to his LBS. No idea what the hub brand was, but it was remedied with a Shimano hub.