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Old 10-23-20, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Germany_chris
Maybe French folks aren't helmet nazis?
Wow. This certainly is not the extreme view I was thinking of, but sure maybe they aren't.

I am not judging the brand for not having helmets on the models its simply noticable since the overwhelming % of cycling product/gear sites have models wearing helmets.
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
TBH, I kinda like a lot of their stuff. Seriously considering this jacket:
https://www.cafeducycliste.com/en_us...olid-navy.html
Despite my critiques of their Gravel line, I like a lot of their other stuff as well. That jacket does look pretty nice.
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Originally Posted by Hiro11
TBH, I kinda like a lot of their stuff. Seriously considering this jacket:
https://www.cafeducycliste.com/en_us...olid-navy.html
They have a few jackets that I really like. For whatever reason, I really like the look of the jackets with the quilted front. The Heidi (Link) would be at the top of my list. I also like the Leonie in burgundy (Link), but for anywhere near the same price, I'd go with the Heidi.

Some of their jerseys are pretty nice, but I'm not fond of the tall collar on many of them, which makes them a non-starter at these price points.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Wow. This certainly is not the extreme view I was thinking of, but sure maybe they aren't.

I am not judging the brand for not having helmets on the models its simply noticable since the overwhelming % of cycling product/gear sites have models wearing helmets.
Some of their models wear helmets, some don't - seems to be pretty consistent, too, which makes me wonder if they leave it up to the model.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Some of their models wear helmets, some don't - seems to be pretty consistent, too, which makes me wonder if they leave it up to the model.
Good lord, examples are on the main page and the main apparel page!
Ha, well ignore my earlier comments. Even the bearded dude has a helmet in a different pic.

It just happened that the products talked about most here, the 3/4 sleeve and flannel, have pics of no helmet cyclists.


Thsts what I get for not looking further.
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There is a lot of discussion around this being a French company, and how critiques need to take this into account. You know, the French are not helmet Nazis, and the French like to be fashionable.....

Interesting, I never see this cultural sensitivity brought to bear when discussing products and marketing from companies from China or other Asian countries.
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I think they meed some caps with John Deer or Stihl logos on them to go with the faux flannels.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
I think they meed some caps with John Deer or Stihl logos on them to go with the faux flannels.
Carhartt!
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Carhartt!
Some Carhart overalls -inspired bibs would be perfect! Or even some carpenter pants -inspired shorts. Put a hammer loop on those baggies!
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Some Carhart overalls -inspired bibs would be perfect! Or even some carpenter pants -inspired shorts. Put a hammer loop on those baggies!
Now we are talking the "Trad" vs "Sport" fashion wars of 1980's rock climbing - painter pants vs lycra. Everything old is new again!
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
There is a lot of discussion around this being a French company, and how critiques need to take this into account. You know, the French are not helmet Nazis, and the French like to be fashionable.....

Interesting, I never see this cultural sensitivity brought to bear when discussing products and marketing from companies from China or other Asian countries.
so show us some Chinese or other Asian cycling clothing marketing and we’ll discuss whether thet’re helmet nazis or not
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
There is a lot of discussion around this being a French company, and how critiques need to take this into account. You know, the French are not helmet Nazis, and the French like to be fashionable.....

Interesting, I never see this cultural sensitivity brought to bear when discussing products and marketing from companies from China or other Asian countries.
Damn, you reachin'.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Damn, you reachin'.
No, what is really "reaching" is explaining away a line of clothing with is simultaneous

a) unoriginal (copied out of a Brooklyn Hiptser catalogue)
b) out of context (if there even IS a "gravel" style, 3/4 tees, Rayban Wayfarers, and no helmet is definitely NOT it), and
3) extraordinarily expensive

With the rational "But..... it's FRENCH!"

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Old 10-23-20, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
No, what is really "reaching" is explaining away a line of clothing with is simultaneous

a) unoriginal (copied out of a Brooklyn Hiptser catalogue)
b) out of context (if there even IS a "gravel" style, 3/4 tees, Rayban Wayfarers, and no helmet is definitely NOT it), and
3) extraordinarily expensive

With the rational "But..... it's FRENCH!"
I was referring to your attempted comparison to attitudes towards Asian goods. Other than Pearl Izumi, I can't think of a cycling apparel company out of Asia and I don't recall anyone getting worked up, one way or the other, about PI.

As far as your above "points" -

a) can you point to a clothing line that is "original," ie doesn't take design cues from anything previous?
b) you know it when you see it, eh?
c) this has been covered before - you're wrong on this. There are plenty of other manufacturers playing in the same price points, inside and outside of cycling.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
With the rational "But..... it's FRENCH!"
As Jerry Seinfeld said: "It's not a purse, it's EUROPEAN!!"
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