Mystery Bike Full Dura-Ace and Campagnolo possibly Italian Please help with a ID
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Mystery Bike Full Dura-Ace and Campagnolo possibly Italian Please help with a ID
I really hope this is my last mystery bike post for a long time.
Serial number is on the BB and is a simple 052
campagnoloDropouts
Interesting rear cable guide
pat 73 campagnoloRD
Dura Ace Crank and FD
campagnoloPedals
campagnoloBrakes
Avocet Hubs on Weinman wheels
Campolongo Seat post
Cinelli Bars
Serial number is on the BB and is a simple 052
campagnoloDropouts
Interesting rear cable guide
pat 73 campagnoloRD
Dura Ace Crank and FD
campagnoloPedals
campagnoloBrakes
Avocet Hubs on Weinman wheels
Campolongo Seat post
Cinelli Bars
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Doesn't look Italian to me (wrapped stays are a big hint, IMO). What's the width of the BB shell?
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My Guess is it is a UCSD. It is old enough to have been a bike boom bike so it may well have been their "house brand" bike and they loaded up with what the buyer wanted.
They are still around but my guess is you will not find out much calling them due to the age of the bike. https://bikeshop.ucsd.edu/main.html
If you search UCSD Bike you will find a lot of links for racing and Co Op types of events.
They are still around but my guess is you will not find out much calling them due to the age of the bike. https://bikeshop.ucsd.edu/main.html
If you search UCSD Bike you will find a lot of links for racing and Co Op types of events.
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Lugwork is nicely done - definitely not a low-quality frame.
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Thanks, I shot them a email on the off chance they might know. I should have taken a better picture of the cable guides.
My Guess is it is a UCSD. It is old enough to have been a bike boom bike so it may well have been their "house brand" bike and they loaded up with what the buyer wanted.
They are still around but my guess is you will not find out much calling them due to the age of the bike. https://bikeshop.ucsd.edu/main.html
If you search UCSD Bike you will find a lot of links for racing and Co Op types of events.
They are still around but my guess is you will not find out much calling them due to the age of the bike. https://bikeshop.ucsd.edu/main.html
If you search UCSD Bike you will find a lot of links for racing and Co Op types of events.
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Interesting seat stay caps, I don't think I've seen that exact style before
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I agree that it doesn't look Italian. Without some better clues I'd be tempted to say French just because the stay caps remind me of a Motobecane Le Champion, but that's premature. Need to know the BB shell width and threading, the fork/HS threading, OD of the main tubes, seat post size.
What brand is that HS and that stem? Looks like the old Cinelli bars would be 26.4 center.
Trying to remember who liked to use that "reverse" rear brake mounting....
What brand is that HS and that stem? Looks like the old Cinelli bars would be 26.4 center.
Trying to remember who liked to use that "reverse" rear brake mounting....
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I dont' think the reverse brakes means anything because it looks like there is a nut back there. Could be an American builder, too nice to be French
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I was just passing through the Craig's List/eBay find thread and came across this Lotus (most of the way down on page 164). Someone else my be able to verify, but it sure looks like your bike. The brakes are mounted differently but...???
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...art-II/page164
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...art-II/page164
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well, none of this is shabby components (Edco is Swiss, expensive, and probably never was OEM on a major mass-produced bicycle brand). Along with the mix of DA, Campy, Cinelli, 3TTT (I'm guessing that's the stem), etc., it's all top-line stuff thrown together by the owner. Maybe he built up a bare frame or upgraded as he went along, according to whim.
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Dang, did that bike fall into a cement mixer? Can't believe the encrustation on that headset alone! Save it quick!, before it's too late!
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I had never even heard of EDCO before this though I have not been around very long. A quick google and Ebay search did come up rather empty though.
well, none of this is shabby components (Edco is Swiss, expensive, and probably never was OEM on a major mass-produced bicycle brand). Along with the mix of DA, Campy, Cinelli, 3TTT (I'm guessing that's the stem), etc., it's all top-line stuff thrown together by the owner. Maybe he built up a bare frame or upgraded as he went along, according to whim.
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Is that a Mavic sticker on the seat tube? EDCO is very nice stuff; I've got an EDCO Competition adjustable aluminum bottom bracket on my 77 Trek TX-300 and it's mighty sweet.
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Yep. Its a Mavic sticker. I just noticed that even the seatpost is Campagnolo. It is strange that it has that sticker in that place when it does not even run those wheels.
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It is obviously one of those ubiquitous Mavic MA40 frames.
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measure the width of the BB shell. it will be either 68 or 70mm. if you get anything else, measure again. Then look at the cups for any markings/numbers: you'll want something like 1.37" x 24 or
36 x 24
Take out the stem and see if it has any markings on the quill (like 22.2 or 22.0).
But with the 27.2 it's looking like it's probably not FR.
36 x 24
Take out the stem and see if it has any markings on the quill (like 22.2 or 22.0).
But with the 27.2 it's looking like it's probably not FR.
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The restoration begins soon, But I have a couple more questions-
The flipped back brake- Reasoning for this?
The brakes are setup with the front brake on the right lever like a motorcycle
The flipped back brake- Reasoning for this?
The brakes are setup with the front brake on the right lever like a motorcycle